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Post by kip on Mar 27, 2015 17:55:55 GMT -5
Started one of Gary Doucette’s kits. This is the 1935 Ted Horn Miller Ford. Looks like a pretty simple kit. No suspension to speak of. Will have a two-tone black and white paint job. Wheels and tires are done. I have quite a few of Gary’s kits and I assembly line produced them.  Ran into a problem right off. The belly pan at the rear is wider than the body. The front of the belly pan is ok. I don’t have specs on this car so I don’t know which is correct—the body or the pan. It is easier to narrow the belly pan than widen the body so I chose that route. Took a vee shaped slice out of the middle of the belly pan (1/16 inch at the back to just a slice about a quarter of the way front the front of the belly pan. Clamped the pan together, glued, puttied, sanded, and primed.  kip |
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Post by 1961redlegs on Mar 27, 2015 21:31:49 GMT -5
Thanks for the tip on the bellypan, that'll save me some grief when I build mine.
You're off to a great start and I look forward to your progress!
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Post by clm1545 on Mar 27, 2015 21:40:58 GMT -5
Gary tends to take parts out of the pressure tank too soon sometimes. They do require more prep work than some others. On the flip side, he has a large selection, and pretty good pricing. For me, it all evens out. All of our current crop of casters do a great job, and we are lucky to have them. This is truly a great time to be an Indycar model builder.
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Post by Calvin on Mar 27, 2015 23:52:16 GMT -5
Also, I know that in some cases depending on the resin and rubber the casted parts can come out 0.005" smaller than the masters. (For Craig to understand 0.005" = 1/200" or 0.127mm for Michael P.)  |
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Post by racerbrown on Mar 28, 2015 7:15:37 GMT -5
Also, I know that in some cases depending on the resin and rubber the casted parts can come out 0.005" smaller than the masters. (For Craig to understand 0.005" = 1/200" or 0.127mm for Michael P.) and what does that translate to for your friendly cabinetmaker…  duane |
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Post by jamesharvey on Mar 28, 2015 7:54:26 GMT -5
I have this kit from Gary as well. I realize there are variances between our various kit makers but am I ever grateful for what they produce. I can't keep up but sure is fun trying. I will follow this WIP because I have these kits as well. Ted Horn was a hero of mine as a kind so this is just great.
Jim
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Post by sandysixtysfan on Mar 28, 2015 8:49:00 GMT -5
This will be a great wip! I have some of Gary's Miller Fords that I might have to start on after watching this.
Sandy
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Post by sandysixtysfan on Mar 28, 2015 8:50:43 GMT -5
Also, I know that in some cases depending on the resin and rubber the casted parts can come out 0.005" smaller than the masters. (For Craig to understand 0.005" = 1/200" or 0.127mm for Michael P.) and what does that translate to for your friendly cabinetmaker… duane "Ahhh, thats looks close enough." |
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Post by clm1545 on Mar 28, 2015 10:00:16 GMT -5
and what does that translate to for your friendly cabinetmaker… duane "Ahhh, thats looks close enough." "Good enough, for who it's for"  |
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Post by Calvin on Mar 28, 2015 10:40:29 GMT -5
Also, I know that in some cases depending on the resin and rubber the casted parts can come out 0.005" smaller than the masters. (For Craig to understand 0.005" = 1/200" or 0.127mm for Michael P.) and what does that translate to for your friendly cabinetmaker… duane "Close engough"  |
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Post by kip on Mar 28, 2015 17:25:48 GMT -5
I agree totally. When I said I ran into a problem with the belly pan, please don't take it as being negative about a kit or a kit maker. I was just saying what I did in this step and how I did it. Gary is a great guy and has been a major help to me. He makes kits nobody else does and offers great service--when you order a kit its on its way in a couple days. In this case, I rather enjoyed figuring out how to narrow the rear part of the belly pan without narrowing the front. I've always thought the Miller Fords were among the most attractive cars of the 30's I am am really happy Gary made them available.
By the way, Gary told me he'll have the 1956 Kozma Dean Van Lines car available in a couple weeks. Should be able to make four or five cars from this kit.
kip
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Post by clm1545 on Mar 28, 2015 17:38:18 GMT -5
and what does that translate to for your friendly cabinetmaker… duane "Close engough" Easy there, Mr micrometer. There is a world of difference between building a pole barn and furniture. I have seen some of work Duane has done. |
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Post by rusty on Mar 28, 2015 17:54:30 GMT -5
Deleted, because the wrong post was quoted.
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Post by clm1545 on Mar 28, 2015 19:44:15 GMT -5
Please don't misunderstand me. Gary is a good friend of mine, and a super guy. I have more than 1 of almost everything he has produced. All I'm saying is that his kits will require more work than some of the other casters. He has, and continues to make kits that nobody else has done, and rates our continued support.
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Post by racerbrown on Mar 29, 2015 7:56:11 GMT -5
i think we all appreciate and enjoy gary's unequaled passion for the hobby.
i really enjoy seeing kip doing this as i've got about five of these on the shelf and it's inspiring to see them so well done.
thanks for sharing.
duane
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Post by kip on Mar 29, 2015 14:55:45 GMT -5
Paint is on. Decals and clear coat are next. Can't wait to play with the PE grill.  kip |
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Post by indy on Mar 29, 2015 15:11:25 GMT -5
Love it! Vinyl pinstripes?
Jordan
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Post by jamesharvey on Mar 29, 2015 17:00:37 GMT -5
Wow!! The paint job is really striking. Thanks for sharing this.
Jim
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Post by kip on Mar 29, 2015 17:47:29 GMT -5
Yes. Tried the decals first but the coverage over the black was not great. The pin stripes covered better, were easier to work with and after clear coating, should blend smoother with the paint--at least they have in the past.
kip
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Post by sandysixtysfan on Mar 29, 2015 18:09:58 GMT -5
Wow. That is great looking. Did I miss something, how did you cover so much ground in just two days?  Sandy  |
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Post by Calvin on Mar 29, 2015 19:17:50 GMT -5
Very cool! This looks like a nice fast fun build.
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Post by Calvin on Mar 29, 2015 19:19:42 GMT -5
Easy there, Mr micrometer. There is a world of difference between building a pole barn and furniture. I have seen some of work Duane has done. Yeah but he needs to retire.....  ...thats why I'm giving him a hard time.... |
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Post by kip on Mar 29, 2015 20:19:51 GMT -5
I cheated. The photos included in the March 27 post were taken earlier in the week. Even so, that is pretty fast for me cause I am really slow. But this actually a fast build so far. I'm going to build it pretty much box stock. I don't know enough about this car or have the drawings to add much detail. The decals are on. I will post a photo maybe tomorrow.
kip
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Post by racerbrown on Mar 29, 2015 20:44:21 GMT -5
Easy there, Mr micrometer. There is a world of difference between building a pole barn and furniture. I have seen some of work Duane has done. Yeah but he needs to retire..... ...thats why I'm giving him a hard time.... dang calvin i'm only 56. my wife retires in november so who knows about me but when people keep calling me… so far so good kip as the paint really turned out well. duane |
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Post by alterrenner on Mar 30, 2015 5:14:59 GMT -5
About the car's history: all I can suggest is to keep the steering box away from the exhaust!
--Frank
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Post by kip on Mar 30, 2015 11:44:41 GMT -5
Decals are on. Cockpit next.  kip |
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Post by Art Laski on Mar 30, 2015 14:36:59 GMT -5
Looking great, Kip!
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Post by jamesharvey on Mar 30, 2015 18:21:58 GMT -5
This is really special. Your work in general and this in particular are amazing. This is really a "sharp-dressed" Ford.
Jim
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Post by clm1545 on Mar 30, 2015 19:58:42 GMT -5
Looking real goooood, Kip
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Post by Calvin on Mar 30, 2015 20:31:16 GMT -5
Very exciting! This is great motivation for everyone!
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...thats why I'm giving him a hard time....
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