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Post by Calvin on Jul 29, 2013 14:03:17 GMT -5
Oh my, yet another scratch build WIP! My scratch builds are kinda like Chia Pets, they dont look like much at the start but just give it some time and it eventually grows! (What a strange analogy) This is going to be a curbside resin body and 75% of an AMT PC-17 kit will be needed as a donor. |
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Post by Calvin on Jul 29, 2013 14:40:21 GMT -5
I'm I just seeing things or does the body work step out more vertically around the rear tire flipper? (kinda hard to explain)  |
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Post by zippernl on Jul 29, 2013 14:56:50 GMT -5
I'm I just seeing things or does the body work step out more vertically around the rear tire flipper? (kinda hard to explain) It looks like the angle of the photo tries to trick you.. It looks like it, but if you focus more I think it isn't. |
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Post by SteveK51 on Jul 29, 2013 15:44:36 GMT -5
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Post by Calvin on Jul 29, 2013 16:35:37 GMT -5
What I'm trying to say is the side of the bodywork above the kick up is a concave(?) radius (goes in)....but below the kick up it looks to be a convex(?) radius (comes out)  |
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Post by SteveK51 on Jul 29, 2013 17:39:06 GMT -5
Ok, here's another shot. For the side face of the sidepod, I'm seeing two angles, one above and one below the kick-up, each without any curvature. Vertical below, slanted inward at the top above the kick-up.   |
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Post by Calvin on Jul 29, 2013 18:10:42 GMT -5
I think we are on the same page? LOL I'm not worried about the kick up at all, its the radius' the side of the bodywork I'm asking about. Basically without the kick up there it would be a step between the top and bottom.
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Post by Calvin on Jul 29, 2013 18:13:15 GMT -5
What the heck is this in front of the side pod? LOL  |
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Post by indycals on Jul 29, 2013 18:58:36 GMT -5
What I'm trying to say is the side of the bodywork above the kick up is a concave(?) radius (goes in)....but below the kick up it looks to be a convex(?) radius (comes out) Yes |
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Post by indycals on Jul 29, 2013 18:58:52 GMT -5
What the heck is this in front of the side pod? LOL Aero device |
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Post by SteveK51 on Jul 29, 2013 20:02:55 GMT -5
Lol ok yes, I think we are on the same page. Looking at some 1989 pictures on the HD, I'm seeing lots of aero bits forward of the radiators on lots of different cars..  |
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Post by Calvin on Jul 29, 2013 20:26:23 GMT -5
Yeah what was throwing me is I was looking at a drawing of the PC-18 and it doesn't show the convex and concave sides correctly....plus its hard to tell on some pics..... If a person looks at the PC-17 AMT kit its basically the same but on the PC-18 its more of an extreme bend in.
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Post by Calvin on Jul 29, 2013 20:38:58 GMT -5
The 1989 Yearbook answers all questions!  |
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Post by SteveK51 on Jul 29, 2013 20:39:20 GMT -5
Looks like they're there at Detroit:  but not on the car raceday morning:  in the race:  or the next day:  |
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Post by Calvin on Jul 29, 2013 21:29:59 GMT -5
It looks to me that the Penske cars have different radiator inlets compared to the Patrick radiator inlets.
In the 89 Yearbook see pg.4 of the Patrick car and compare it to the Penske cars on pg. 32
Plus the Penske cars have that aero fin on the front and the Patrick car does not.
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Post by indycals on Jul 29, 2013 22:43:52 GMT -5
or the next day: Interesting. Almost all the day after shots I've seen show Emmo with a PC17, and this is clearly the PC18 - and it appears to have recently rained. (yearbook page 78 for the PC17, but page 107 shows a winners shot with the PC18). And yes, the radiator inlet does look different. We do know that Patrick modified the PC18 - that's why they finished the race and the Penske entered ones didn't - Patrick found some sort of flaw in the car. |
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Post by pje on Jul 30, 2013 0:20:03 GMT -5
Glad to see you working on this one Calvin. Do you have this old drawing from Union Vac? Paul Erlendson Attachments:
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Post by pje on Jul 30, 2013 0:22:47 GMT -5
This one is from my Tameo instructions. I have these in AutoCAD. If you would like a 1/25th scale PDF let me know. Paul Erlendson Attachments:
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Post by Calvin on Jul 30, 2013 8:56:24 GMT -5
Paul, I'm interested in anything you have when comes to drawings and info. Thanks!  |
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Post by pje on Jul 30, 2013 12:32:09 GMT -5
Email sent Calvin. Hope they help.
Paul Erlendson
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Post by indy on Jul 30, 2013 21:25:19 GMT -5
Calvin, have you thought about asking Tony Matthews for reference shots? He's posted a series of photos on other forums for a few cars which he drew from the photos. I have a Pennzoil one of this in poster form, too.  Jordan |
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Post by Calvin on Jul 30, 2013 21:28:52 GMT -5
Interesting. No I didn't know.
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Post by Art Laski on Jul 30, 2013 23:31:35 GMT -5
I asked Tony for some shots of the PC-17 and he obliged me as best he could. The only problem was that he couldn't find the bulk of his pictures, or it would have been a great score.
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Post by Calvin on Aug 3, 2013 22:55:38 GMT -5
PC-18 Update Update Update Update It looks pretty funky right now but I'm very happy with how the shape is coming along. Also how the PC-17 donor progress as well....    I'll have complete instuctuon with this kit on how to convert the AMT PC-17 to fit with the new PC-18 resin body. (its very simple)  It will just be a few cuts and thats it!  The good think about using the AMT kit as a donor is most of it will get used so it will not feel like a waste. |
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Post by Calvin on Aug 4, 2013 16:39:56 GMT -5
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Post by indy on Aug 4, 2013 20:16:34 GMT -5
Coming along nicely Calvin. Did you extend the windscreen? Always seemed like the '89 had a windscreen with leading edge of it very far up on the nose.
Jordan
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Post by Calvin on Aug 4, 2013 20:37:27 GMT -5
Coming along nicely Calvin. Did you extend the windscreen? Always seemed like the '89 had a windscreen with leading edge of it very far up on the nose. Jordan Oh yeah its way out there..... The best way to see the difference is look at these shots Even the tip of the nose is more of V shape on the PC18 Before I started on this I didn't realize how many little differences there are between the 17 and the 18   |
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Post by Calvin on Aug 18, 2013 14:40:53 GMT -5
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Post by indycals on Aug 18, 2013 15:44:27 GMT -5
Calvin, are you using camouflage so we can't see the true lines of the car?  |
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Post by Calvin on Aug 18, 2013 17:58:02 GMT -5
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