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Post by mrindy77 on May 23, 2011 16:45:52 GMT -5
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Post by indycals on May 23, 2011 17:00:17 GMT -5
Foyt was funding the car out of pocket. It's business, it's been done before, it will happen again. And it's Foyt's car and he can do whatever he pleases with it. He's done more for Indy than just about anybody. I don't recall people getting indignant when he pulled George Snider in 81 to allow Tim Richmond in the race.
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Post by dale on May 23, 2011 17:43:48 GMT -5
Isn't AJ Mikey's Godfather?
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Post by 2lapsdown on May 23, 2011 17:48:57 GMT -5
Dale, AJ is John Andretti's Godfather. What really stinks about this the fact that Junkie got dumped again. Why nobody will hire this guy full time is sad. Of course the answer is money, as it always is.
John
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Post by mrindy77 on May 23, 2011 18:43:18 GMT -5
Foyt was funding the car out of pocket. It's business, it's been done before, it will happen again. And it's Foyt's car and he can do whatever he pleases with it. He's done more for Indy than just about anybody. I don't recall people getting indignant when he pulled George Snider in 81 to allow Tim Richmond in the race. Doesn't matter...it's ride buying. Yea, I know it's been done before, I know it's his money, his car....all that does not mean I have to like it. RHR did not qualify for the race...on that day he was not good enough pure and simple. And I didn't like it 1981 either. |
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Post by trevor83 on May 23, 2011 19:11:47 GMT -5
How does one doing it on their own team (AJ/Ziggy, Tags/Bruno) compare to outright buying/selling another team's seat? I'm hating the comparison. Same team doesn't bother me. Selling out to a competitor is sickening.
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Post by stonecold44 on May 23, 2011 19:45:19 GMT -5
How does one doing it on their own team (AJ/Ziggy, Tags/Bruno) compare to outright buying/selling another team's seat? I'm hating the comparison. Same team doesn't bother me. Selling out to a competitor is sickening. Michael can probably give a better answer but I'm guessing that it has something to do with RHR's sponsors shifting money from Andretti over to Foyt, at least for just this race. From what I can tell, the car will have the markings from RHR's sponsors as well as the ABC Supplies and others that Foyt would have had on Bruno's car. |
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Post by indycals on May 23, 2011 20:09:02 GMT -5
It would make most sense to just withdraw the Foyt car - RHR is first alternate. Why do all the work to re-livery a new car?
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Post by indy on May 23, 2011 20:13:26 GMT -5
I wondered the same thing Michael. Maybe money or maybe Foyt wants to be the owner of record - not sure.
If I were RHR, I'd probably relish the chance to be in someone else's car LOL It will be interesting to see how RHR does versus his teammate in the 500.
Jordan
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Post by mrindy77 on May 23, 2011 20:36:06 GMT -5
It takes the magic out of bump day...hey if you don't qualify just buy a ride into the 500.
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Post by clm1545 on May 23, 2011 20:53:07 GMT -5
I'm sure it was a good decision money wise for both teams, but very disapointing for the rest of us. I sure hope Bruno is getting something out of this deal. I guess Conway's sponser can't afford to buy another car. When any sport becomes a business we all suffer.
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Post by indycals on May 23, 2011 21:04:19 GMT -5
I guess I'll scrap the DHL/Sundrop decals that are 90% done.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2011 21:35:35 GMT -5
I'm sure it was a good decision money wise for both teams, but very disapointing for the rest of us. I sure hope Bruno is getting something out of this deal. I guess Conway's sponser can't afford to buy another car. When any sport becomes a business we all suffer. Take Care Craig what world you living in craig? sport in the free world has always been a business. unless youre living in a socialist state where the sport is financed by and used for propaganda purpose, you have to pay attention to the bottom line. on the contrary, because sport IS run as a business, we have some great past times w some great history... |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2011 21:37:08 GMT -5
im sure racerbrown would have something to say about running a business..but hes probably sweeping the floor somewhere in florida about right now.
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Post by stonecold44 on May 23, 2011 21:39:41 GMT -5
I guess I'll scrap the DHL/Sundrop decals that are 90% done. NO! Don't do that. Keep them. Those are great markings. Doesn't he use them the rest of the season anyway? |
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Post by indycals on May 23, 2011 21:52:07 GMT -5
Yeah, but the way people are imploding over this deal, will anybody want them?
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Post by stonecold44 on May 23, 2011 21:52:07 GMT -5
I'm sure it was a good decision money wise for both teams, but very disapointing for the rest of us. I sure hope Bruno is getting something out of this deal. I guess Conway's sponser can't afford to buy another car. When any sport becomes a business we all suffer. Take Care Craig what world you living in craig? sport in the free world has always been a business. unless youre living in a socialist state where the sport is financed by and used for propaganda purpose, you have to pay attention to the bottom line. on the contrary, because sport IS run as a business, we have some great past times w some great history... I agree with Bill here. As much as we'd like to keep the sport pure, the fact of the matter is every pro sport is a business. That's why you have things like free agency, player movement and a high price paid for players and drivers that give you a better chance to win. A good example is Albert Pujols, my favorite baseball player. He is the best player in MLB and wants to be paid like it. And at this point it seems loyalty to the team that gave him his chance has no bearing unless they offer him the most money. That's business. In AJ Foyt's case, he saw a chance to re-coup some of the money he sunk into his car and Michael Andretti was a willing dance partner. Andretti's side had more to do with having to answer to major sponsors. He found a willing dance partner in AJ Foyt. That's business. |
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Post by stonecold44 on May 23, 2011 21:56:14 GMT -5
Yeah, but the way people are imploding over this deal, will anybody want them? See how they look with the new markings. And/or offer them in the style of how they look the rest of the season. They're a cool looking set and a great paint scheme. I'd do that car if I could get the kit. Michael, you're a smart businessman. You'll know the best course of action. |
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Post by indycals on May 23, 2011 22:03:04 GMT -5
Yeah, but the way people are imploding over this deal, will anybody want them? See how they look with the new markings. And/or offer them in the style of how they look the rest of the season. They're a cool looking set and a great paint scheme. I'd do that car if I could get the kit. It is a cool looking car - very striking. As well the same can be said for the #41 as simple as it is. They both really stand out on the track! |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2011 22:04:53 GMT -5
what world you living in craig? sport in the free world has always been a business. unless youre living in a socialist state where the sport is financed by and used for propaganda purpose, you have to pay attention to the bottom line. on the contrary, because sport IS run as a business, we have some great past times w some great history... I agree with Bill here. As much as we'd like to keep the sport pure, the fact of the matter is every pro sport is a business. That's why you have things like free agency, player movement and a high price paid for players and drivers that give you a better chance to win. A good example is Albert Pujols, my favorite baseball player. He is the best player in MLB and wants to be paid like it. And at this point it seems loyalty to the team that gave him his chance has no bearing unless they offer him the most money. That's business. In AJ Foyt's case, he saw a chance to re-coup some of the money he sunk into his car and Michael Andretti was a willing dance partner. Andretti's side had more to do with having to answer to major sponsors. He found a willing dance partner in AJ Foyt. That's business. albert pujols. an incredible story. 10th round draft pick out of community college. one of what? 12 children from a poor immigrant family. i truly love the stories where the obscure can excel as albert has. sadly, i think indy was once such an arena. many of the drivers ive admired and known from the 60s, 70s, 80s would not stand a chance in todays 500 advancement system.... |
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Post by indycals on May 23, 2011 22:28:55 GMT -5
Ryan tweeted that he will be in the number 41. I figured they'd just withdraw that car and let him move up as 1st alternate.
... now wouldn't that be crazy if someone wrecks on carb day and puts the #28 back in the race?
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Post by stonecold44 on May 23, 2011 23:02:51 GMT -5
Ryan tweeted that he will be in the number 41. I figured they'd just withdraw that car and let him move up as 1st alternate. ... now wouldn't that be crazy if someone wrecks on carb day and puts the #28 back in the race? It would be even crazier if RHR crashed AJ's car and had to drive his #28! |
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Post by SWT500 on May 24, 2011 5:58:44 GMT -5
Holy Joe Thorne Batman!!
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Post by harveythedog2 on May 24, 2011 7:23:04 GMT -5
I feel bad for Bruno the most but wouldn't it be something if RHR ended up winning? A win for Andretti & Foyt at the same time?
TALK ABOUT HISTORY!
Stu
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Post by indy on May 24, 2011 7:32:14 GMT -5
Ryan tweeted that he will be in the number 41. I figured they'd just withdraw that car and let him move up as 1st alternate. ... now wouldn't that be crazy if someone wrecks on carb day and puts the #28 back in the race? It would be even crazier if RHR crashed AJ's car and had to drive his #28! LOL, that's hilarious! Jordan |
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Post by mrindy77 on May 24, 2011 7:45:19 GMT -5
what world you living in craig? sport in the free world has always been a business. unless youre living in a socialist state where the sport is financed by and used for propaganda purpose, you have to pay attention to the bottom line. on the contrary, because sport IS run as a business, we have some great past times w some great history... I agree with Bill here. As much as we'd like to keep the sport pure, the fact of the matter is every pro sport is a business. That's why you have things like free agency, player movement and a high price paid for players and drivers that give you a better chance to win. A good example is Albert Pujols, my favorite baseball player. He is the best player in MLB and wants to be paid like it. And at this point it seems loyalty to the team that gave him his chance has no bearing unless they offer him the most money. That's business. In AJ Foyt's case, he saw a chance to re-coup some of the money he sunk into his car and Michael Andretti was a willing dance partner. Andretti's side had more to do with having to answer to major sponsors. He found a willing dance partner in AJ Foyt. That's business. Free agency ruined baseball....it's not business it's GREED. |
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Post by 2lapsdown on May 24, 2011 7:58:26 GMT -5
NA$CAR is a perfect example of business getting involved in a sport. NA$CAR was actually a pretty pure endeavor until it got popular on TV. Then the powers got more interested in "The Show" than the racing aspect of the product. Over the recent years the "improvements" they've made have created a situation where NA$CAR is now trying to get the product back to being what it used to be, eg. Have at it boys. I will admit that business has brought about certain advantages to racing, but business more times than not is followed by greed and there in lies the problem.
John
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Post by mrindy77 on May 24, 2011 8:25:59 GMT -5
Foyt was funding the car out of pocket. It's business, it's been done before, it will happen again. And it's Foyt's car and he can do whatever he pleases with it. He's done more for Indy than just about anybody. I don't recall people getting indignant when he pulled George Snider in 81 to allow Tim Richmond in the race. I'm a Foyt fan but I have to disagree...Indy made Foyt...not the other way around. |
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Post by dale on May 24, 2011 8:45:15 GMT -5
The car has to go 500 miles first. We are talking RHR here not Tom Sneva or Gary Bettenhausen.
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Post by SWT500 on May 24, 2011 9:06:45 GMT -5
Money talks and so Bruno walks...
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