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Post by illeagle10 on Jan 25, 2011 17:50:47 GMT -5
OK, Here goes! Off on another big adventure! History: After purchasing this from Bill Jorgensen some time ago. I had been looking at building this one for a long time, since I was actually at this Indy 500 and met Bill there. I fiddled around with the car and after a little cleaning up on the body itself, I began to fabricate parts for this car a few of years ago. Then I put it away for a long while. After I completed the 94 Lola, I decided to pull out the 94 Penske again and decided to see what I could do with it. I primed the car just before the cold spell came in in the Northeast. Now the fun begins. Jim
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Post by Calvin on Jan 25, 2011 19:58:59 GMT -5
Awesome! Cant wait to watch!
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Post by illeagle10 on Jan 31, 2011 13:44:33 GMT -5
When I originally started to work on this kit, I was using an AMT Penske PC-17 for parts. I believe that, when this kit was conceived the AMT kit was the only viable kit that was available for this type of car at the time and I think Bill was using it as a starting point for the Penske car. I started out by using the front and rear suspension pieces from the AMT kit. There wasn’t much clean up needed for the resin body and under-tray that was provided. I believe the under-tray was a resin copy of the AMT kit and fit quite well. The transmission from the AMT kit seemed a little too long and I wanted something a little more accurate. I cut the transmission short and used the end cover from the AMT Lola kit. The lower rear suspension was shaped differently on the PC-17 kit from the actual car and again I wanted something a little more accurate. I began to fashion the lower suspension with Evergreen plastic and kit pieces. I had used the tub from the AMT Penkse and the seat from the AMT Lola for the cockpit. I had most of the parts needed to start the kit. For unknown reasons I became preoccupied with other things and put the kit away for a long time! When I began to work on the 94 Lola I had been eyeing the newer Revell Reynard kits for parts. However, the AMT Lola parts seemed to be a much better fit for the 94 Lola as described in the WIP for that kit. When I pulled the Penske kit back out, I wondered how the Revell Reynard parts would match up to the Penske. The front suspension from the Revell kit seemed to be more accurate for the Penske than from the AMT kit. As I looked at the under-tray and rear suspension they also seemed to be a better fit and look. After a little modification to the under-tray the suspension seemed to fit right up inside the Penske. Seen here are three transmissions. The one in the middle is the original transmission I had made. The one on the right is a stock transmission from the Revell kit. The transmission on the left is the one I am using for the kit. I added a little more detail to it. The biggest problem on the original is that the suspension kept breaking! I also believe that the Reynard transmission is a little more accurate too. Here’s the fit on the under-trays. The under-tray on the left is from the Revell kit the one on the right is from the Jorgensen kit. As you can see in this picture and the one above, some modifications were done on the Revell under-tray for a better fit to the body. Here is a look at the original kit with the parts that were provided plus the ones I had made. As you can see the resin under-tray does fit and would probably make a nice car. Here is the body of the Penske fitted to the Revell Reynard. I think you’ll all agree the fit is much better than the original one I was making! Penske/Reynard, I don’t know what Nigel Bennett would say, but it works!
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Post by 2lapsdown on Jan 31, 2011 14:47:52 GMT -5
So instead of a Renske we have a Penard.
John
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Post by SWT500 on Jan 31, 2011 14:51:10 GMT -5
Is that better than a Pola?
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Post by illeagle10 on Jan 31, 2011 15:02:56 GMT -5
I was always partial to Reyske! I just hope I'm not breaking any copyrights during this WIP!
Jim
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Post by 2lapsdown on Jan 31, 2011 15:44:11 GMT -5
I like the Pola, LOL!
John
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Post by Calvin on Feb 1, 2011 22:48:39 GMT -5
Nice!
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Post by illeagle10 on Feb 7, 2011 14:59:05 GMT -5
Before spray painting the car gloss white, I needed to add the “shark teeth” to the front of the air ramps. I fashioned them from Evergreen plastic strips. Once the “shark teeth” were added, I gave the car a few coats of gloss white. Prior to painting I also fashioned the front and rear wings from the Penske AMT kit and added new wing end plates to both. Then painted the body and wings gloss white all at once. I used the seat from the AMT Lola kit and drilled vent holes into the seat and added a head rest at the top of the seat as on the real car. In the meantime I have pinned and primed all of the suspension pieces with Alclad primer along with the wheels. The wheels are also from the Revell Reynard kit. Well back to work! Jim
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Post by Calvin on Feb 7, 2011 23:37:52 GMT -5
Darn it Jim! You make everything look sooooo easy! No really you do. I can sense your confidence when you build.Thats a little to strange, what I just said. LOL
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Post by illeagle10 on Feb 8, 2011 17:01:05 GMT -5
Darn it Jim! You make everything look sooooo easy! No really you do. I can sense your confidence when you build.Thats a little to strange, what I just said. LOL If it were as easy as you think I'd be poppin' out left and right like you! LOL! ;D I just hope that I can give some inspiration if not some tips to other modelers here on the sight, as I have gotten from many of them. Jim
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Post by illeagle10 on Feb 11, 2011 23:19:28 GMT -5
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! I DROPPED IT!!!! I DROPPED IT!!!!!!! I DROPPED THE DARN THING ON THE FLOOR!!!!!! I CAN’T BEILIEVE IT!!!!! I DROPPED IT !!!!! I broke the dorsal fin and roll bar off AND CHIPPED THE PAINT IN ABOUT FOUR PLACES. CRAP!...........CRAP!...........CRAP! ………..I’m going now……..I’m going to cry my eyes out and have a melt down. I just can’t believe it. I DROPPED IT!!! HOW CAN I BE SO STUPID!!!! I DROPPED IT!!!!! CRAP!.........CRAP!……….CRAP!………..I’m going now………….So much for confidence, it just went down the toilet!!!!!
Stupid(Jim)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2011 23:30:28 GMT -5
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! I DROPPED IT!!!! I DROPPED IT!!!!!!! I DROPPED THE DARN THING ON THE FLOOR!!!!!! I CAN’T BEILIEVE IT!!!!! I DROPPED IT !!!!! I broke the dorsal fin and roll bar off AND CHIPPED THE PAINT IN ABOUT FOUR PLACES. CRAP!...........CRAP!...........CRAP! ………..I’m going now……..I’m going to cry my eyes out and have a melt down. I just can’t believe it. I DROPPED IT!!! HOW CAN I BE SO STUPID!!!! I DROPPED IT!!!!! CRAP!.........CRAP!……….CRAP!………..I’m going now………….So much for confidence, it just went down the toilet!!!!! Stupid(Jim) Jim, I know and feel your pain. Take a deep breath, count to 10 and start over. For an example, check out the "Old Calhoun" build I did last year. I dropped that sucker on the floor and had to re-paint it three times. You can do it!! Best to you! Russ
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Post by stonecold44 on Feb 12, 2011 0:03:43 GMT -5
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! I DROPPED IT!!!! I DROPPED IT!!!!!!! I DROPPED THE DARN THING ON THE FLOOR!!!!!! I CAN’T BEILIEVE IT!!!!! I DROPPED IT !!!!! I broke the dorsal fin and roll bar off AND CHIPPED THE PAINT IN ABOUT FOUR PLACES. CRAP!...........CRAP!...........CRAP! ………..I’m going now……..I’m going to cry my eyes out and have a melt down. I just can’t believe it. I DROPPED IT!!! HOW CAN I BE SO STUPID!!!! I DROPPED IT!!!!! CRAP!.........CRAP!……….CRAP!………..I’m going now………….So much for confidence, it just went down the toilet!!!!! Stupid(Jim) Jim, I know and feel your pain. Take a deep breath, count to 10 and start over. For an example, check out the "Old Calhoun" build I did last year. I dropped that sucker on the floor and had to re-paint it three times. You can do it!! Best to you! Russ I remember that too well Russ. Hang in there Jim. That's a quality build you have there. Some really good things are worth the adversity that you have to go through. I did a 1988 STP Lola that I had to re-do the paint on a couple of times. In the end, I was pretty pleased that I persevered. Good luck!
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Post by Calvin on Feb 12, 2011 1:12:48 GMT -5
Oh SHOOT! Darn it, I hope I didn't jinx you?
The last time I dropped a model was that 1988 Miller Penske I did last year - It landed in the gravel during spraying clear outside! It had gravel stuck to the clear coat that I freshly sprayed. If it was sponsored by Coors you could of called it Rocky Mountain Gold.
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Post by indycals on Feb 12, 2011 2:04:09 GMT -5
If it makes you feel any better, the 1971 Tyrrell Ford on my website is waiting for major reconstructive restoration after dropping it on the floor. All because I took it out of the display case because I wanted to look at it
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Post by Calvin on Feb 12, 2011 2:16:44 GMT -5
Oh Shiiiii......oooot. that hurts! When did you do that? I could only imagine how hard a 1/12 would hit the ground. I actually forgot already but I dropped my Camel lotus a few days ago and ...... nothing happen! Sigh..... At least I know my plastic welding skills have improved with using glue.
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Post by indycals on Feb 12, 2011 2:59:21 GMT -5
Happened 6-12 months ago, not sure exactly. I just put it in a box and figure I'll fix it when I'm old and bored... which means probably never
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Post by Calvin on Feb 12, 2011 3:22:05 GMT -5
which means probably never Poor car
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Post by illeagle10 on Feb 13, 2011 18:40:58 GMT -5
Sorry for the outburst the other day guys, but misery loves company and I just had to vent somewhere. My wife didn’t understand all the cussing going on in the “dungeon!” That’s what she calls my man-cave. Now after a couple of days, I think I’m over it now. Thanks for your support and encouragement! Yesterday I began stripping all the paint and in doing so wrecked the “shark teeth” to boot. What a pain in the butt to remove paint. The majority came off pretty easy, but I just couldn’t get it all off in the nooks and crannies! Today, I left the body soak in paint remover while I was at church. I was trying to get at those “hard to get” areas. Then all I kept thinking about during church was, I hope that the paint remover doesn’t affect the resin. I should have been paying attention to the sermon! The Lord must have heard my pleas! When I got home I got the rest of the paint off pretty good. So, basically I’m back to square one, “do not pass go, do not collect $200.00!” Starting over! Here she is, paint stripped with new roll bar, since the old resin one broke in pieces. Once the super glue has set, I’ll putty it in place with milliput. I had to fashion a new dorsal fin from Evergreen plastic strip and puttied in place, since I didn’t know where the old one flew off too. I’ll probably find it a month from now. Next are the “shark teeth” at the front of the air ducts for the radiator. Wish me better luck this time! Jim
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2011 21:28:45 GMT -5
Hang in there Champ!!! My wife would laugh at my modeling dissappointments....Now you know why I'm moving. The next woman n my life must pass a test. She must like to eat Chili Dogs with onions, understand I need time to build models and like The Three Stooges.
Best of luck the second time around!
Russ
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Post by lazierfan on Feb 13, 2011 22:35:55 GMT -5
Jim,
Hang in there. Keep the pictures coming. I will need them when I finally get around to building mine.
Eric
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Post by harveythedog2 on Feb 14, 2011 8:11:59 GMT -5
Jim, you didn't drop it. It hit the wall during practice! ;D Now, it's your job to get her ready for the race!
Hang in there!
Stu
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Post by macsparty on Feb 14, 2011 11:39:28 GMT -5
S My wife didn’t understand all the cussing going on in the “dungeon!” Ah, so true. The response I usually get is something to the effect of, Why don't you choose a different hobby that isn't so stressful? I thought this was supposed to be relaxing! I suppose if we all had a dollar for every modeling mistake, we'd all be able to afford every tool, kit and set of decals we ever desired!
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Post by Calvin on Feb 16, 2011 2:26:11 GMT -5
Whenever I get Pissed off at a model (which is very rarely) I get very quite and I dont talk much for a while.
For myself when it comes to the mental side of model building. Is it stressful? No, not IMO but only if you make it. Is it relaxing? No, because you have to use your head and think. I think of model building is something fun. Its my favorite way of showing my creativity and artistic talents.
I cant really tell what friends or family think of my model building because I barely even say a word about it to them. Besides me posting pics on the forum(s) no one I know personally rarely gets to see what I build.
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Post by illeagle10 on Feb 16, 2011 18:06:14 GMT -5
Well, with me messin’ up like I did, I had to pick myself up and find some inspiration. I purchased some neon signs some years ago and never hung them up. So, I found one of them routing through my stuff. I think I paid about $25.00 for this sign, I couldn’t pass up a deal like that! To give me a little inspiration for the Penske car and get back to working on it I hung the sign in my “man-cave” where I could look at it and here it is! Picture’s a little dark, but that’s the best I can do. Jim
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Post by flashman on Feb 17, 2011 19:01:32 GMT -5
Jim, looks like an awesome job you are doing, despite the setback. Hang in there, we're rooting for you.
I still kick myself when I wonder why I didn't buy that transkit and some others of Bill's when they were priced at the kingly sum of $25, which seemed like a lot of money at the time. I still have the color catalog I got from him back then (he even included several real color photograph prints showing half-dozen of his builtups! ;D ).
Michael, I can sure feel your pain about dropping that Tyrrell. I still wince when I remember knocking down a shelf holding several of my 1/12th F1's many years ago. When she heard about it, my mother told me: "I'm glad it was you that did that, instead of someone else!"
Cameron
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Post by illeagle10 on Feb 19, 2011 21:08:36 GMT -5
While working on the body and trying to get it back to where it was. I consoled myself by working on some of the smaller parts. Since the smaller parts on the Revell Reynard are for the road course version, I had to cut the air scoops off and streamline the areas on the inside of the wheels. As you can see the top right is a front inner cover from the kit. On the top left is the modified version, which was flattened out and painted gloss black, ready for some carbon fiber decals. The same goes for the rear hubs on the bottom. The one on the bottom right is the kit rear hub. On the left is the modified version. As you can see I also added a locating pin to attach the upper suspension arm. The wheels, tires and suspension were also worked on. I added valve stems to the wheels and then sprayed them gloss black and then chromed the suspension pieces and wheels. I also inserted the wheels into the tires and added Goodyear decals to them. Hopefully, I'll be back on schedule in a few days. Jim
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Post by Calvin on Feb 20, 2011 4:13:25 GMT -5
Heck yes! I love the chrome!!!!! What chrome did you use? .....they look real, very real.
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Post by illeagle10 on Feb 20, 2011 13:27:54 GMT -5
Heck yes! I love the chrome!!!!! What chrome did you use? .....they look real, very real. I have to thank Michael for that one! He convinced me to use Alclad. I was skeptical at first, but they turned out great! I was always in a conundrum over kit chrome or trying to find some paint that will do the trick. The kit chrome always seemed too "plastic" and overdone for me. However, most chromed paints seemed too "painted," even after buffing. I wanted to find something in between the two. Alclad II paints seemed to do the trick! I just followed their recommendations of using the primer, gloss black and then the chrome. As a matter of fact it was the easiest paint I've worked with. I'm an airbrush user and the neat thing was, no thinning, no heating up, no decanting and no buffing. Jim
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