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Post by Patrick on Nov 21, 2009 17:33:29 GMT -5
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Post by Patrick on Nov 21, 2009 17:39:59 GMT -5
Here's the Lola T90 project parts assembled together. I have to get good tires now.
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Post by kurzheck on Nov 22, 2009 11:00:47 GMT -5
Patrick, Excellent choice. I've had similar thoughts with that toy but I already have way too many projects on the go. Trevor
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2009 11:20:11 GMT -5
Patrick,
Good tires are needed? Try Replica & Miniatures of Maryland. Norm Vebber has a great set of tires casted in black resin that will help you out a great deal!
Best to you!
Russ
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Post by Patrick on Nov 25, 2009 19:56:00 GMT -5
Well, here's the car now sliced into the front body work and the chassis halves. The nose has the extension puttied up ready for sanding and the chassis has about 1/16 of putty added to enlarge the left tank as it was enlarged to 18 3/4 gals. from the 11 1/2 gals. of the F1 car. Weight bias I guess. I'm cutting up some Merit tires/wheels for the Dunlop wheels...what a pain. Patrick
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Post by Patrick on Nov 25, 2009 20:00:36 GMT -5
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Post by Calvin on Nov 25, 2009 20:52:40 GMT -5
Its looking better....Its going to be interesting to watch you do this. Scratch building is so much fun!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2009 12:59:41 GMT -5
Hi Patrick,
Some of these projects of yours really astound me! ;D I have no idea where you come up with the *toys* that you convert. I never knew the existence of them. ;D
This one is really fun to watch since I know the outcome will not even resemble what you started with. Keep up the good work!
Mongo
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Post by peteyd on Nov 29, 2009 10:01:06 GMT -5
Great looking build. I started one of these years ago and have needed some info to make it correct. Thanks for the pics and parts picture. I was going to use wheels from a Strombecker D Jag.
The company that made this toy was the "Z" or "Lucky" company out of China. I've got three of them and none are the same, but all are Coopers! They made about half a dozen F1 cars including Ferrari, BRM, Alpine,etc.
peteyd
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Post by Patrick on Nov 29, 2009 14:47:35 GMT -5
Pete,
Keep your eyes open for a Marx Cooper T54 F1. It's very simple but all there for 1/24. I'm wor5king on one of them also. I have the Alpine F3 car...sooo sweeet!
Patrick
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Post by peteyd on Nov 29, 2009 19:17:34 GMT -5
Patrick,
I've got the Alpine too. also twp Ferrari's; a Sharknose and a V-12 without an engine bonnet. (opps, some british car-speak.)
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Post by peteyd on Nov 30, 2009 13:47:47 GMT -5
Patrick,
I like building these kinds of Indy related cars. Got some Cooper related questions for you. How much did you extend the nose? What were you going to use for suspension? Why did you separate the body the way you did? The reference photos that I have show the left side gas tank to be a little more bulbous. I don't know what to do about how to shape it. I was going to use half a Bic pen tube for the tank. What do you think?
The three Coopers I have all have different exhaust set-ups. One is correct, one has a single pipe on the wrong side, and the third has duels but down low. I've tried to find out more about this company. Interesting, interesting.
peteyd
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Post by Patrick on Dec 3, 2009 23:33:20 GMT -5
Hi Pete,
Duh, once I got in contact with Philippe I saw his photos of the car. So, I slowly built up the tank with putty and sanded, putty and sanded. As for the cuts...well...for my ease and the Doug Nye book has a photo of the car in England with the upper body work off. I assumed the body was cut that way. I'll have to figure out how to fix it.
The front suspension can be from a Hardcastle Coyote or some set I bought at the NNL/West. Oh, the nose was extended 1/4 inch. Interior seat is from a Will's Finecast BRM and the Dunlop wheels cut from the Merit BRM came out great. Photos to follow.
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Post by peteyd on Dec 8, 2009 18:04:45 GMT -5
Hi Patrick,
Another observation from the pictures I've collectd. The bulges that cover the engine (it leans to the left) need to be lower on the left side than the original car has them. I'm not sure what to make those with plastic-wise. What do yo think. Thanks for the other insites.
peteyd
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Post by indycals on Dec 8, 2009 18:59:09 GMT -5
I have no idea where you come up with the *toys* that you convert. I never knew the existence of them. ;D When I was in college my physics professor had a toy car he used in some sort of demonstration of gravity or potential energy or something of the sort... it was a Sam Hanks Belond car!
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Post by Patrick on Dec 8, 2009 21:27:43 GMT -5
Well, here are some photos of what I talked about... and and Pete...as to your observation, yes the carb cover is much larger and "hangs" farther down than the stock F1. The suspension is offset only 2 ins. so that's not much to worry about. The left tank cover as you noted seems to be a separate attached panel and not part of the upper body cover piece so a scribe line should suffice to denote that. The front suspension is being fitted next along with the new carb cover. Michael, I have seen s toy like the Belond car but don't remember what size it was. Patrick Patrick
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Post by indycals on Dec 8, 2009 21:39:10 GMT -5
Michael, I have seen s toy like the Belond car but don't remember what size it was. Patrick It was probably 25 years ago, but I'd venture it was around 1/18 scale.
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Post by Patrick on Dec 21, 2009 0:36:15 GMT -5
School's out and I can put some time into this project again. See you in a couple of days and with some progress!
Patrick
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Post by kurzheck on Dec 21, 2009 22:18:38 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to seeing more of this!
Trevor
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2009 8:50:31 GMT -5
Hi Patrick You are building the Indy version or the F1? I have pictures to scan and send for you, shows the F1 version, just depending a friend to scan it. Cheers. Alex. PS: I don't forgot you,ok?
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Post by Patrick on Dec 28, 2009 4:25:46 GMT -5
Well moving along finally I have a comparison shot of a "stock" Cooper (I'm working on a F1 version also) and the Indy modified body. I primered it and am ready to begin fitting the front suspension. Patrick
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Post by Calvin on Dec 28, 2009 12:55:48 GMT -5
Beautifull!!! Its really taking shape.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2009 13:09:26 GMT -5
That's pure inspiration, Patrick! Excellent job so far.
Mongo
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2009 13:50:07 GMT -5
Patrick, If you had to guess, what scale would you say the toy is? Also, who maunufactured it?
Thanks,
Stu
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Post by Patrick on Dec 29, 2009 16:38:17 GMT -5
I would guess 1/25., but "It's close enuf fer government work! As for maker...I have this one from Portugal by PePe ( yes, really!) and one from ZEE toys from Hong Kong. If you're a 1/25-24 F1 modeler then Hong Kong made many toys on or near 1/24. This Lotus Mk18 started like this another ZEE toy. Patrick
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Post by peteyd on Dec 29, 2009 16:55:28 GMT -5
Patrick,
I have two of the Ferrari F1 cars. One is by Zee and the other by Lucky. I don't know if both companys exist along side each other as competitors in the toy market, or if one bought the other. I also have a BRM (Zee) and an Alpine (Lucky)
peteyd
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Post by Patrick on Dec 29, 2009 16:58:34 GMT -5
I was "lucky" to get an Alpine but it was made by Mini Mite. LOL Who owned who? The Alpine built into a fine F3 car.
Patrick
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Post by indy on Dec 29, 2009 17:18:04 GMT -5
I am floored by how good that looks! It looks like it was molded that way - great work on this conversion. Jordan
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Post by Patrick on Dec 29, 2009 23:13:00 GMT -5
Thanks Jordan. It's coming along as the front suspension fits well. Next comes the rear suspension and paint.
Patrick
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Post by Patrick on Dec 31, 2009 16:16:41 GMT -5
Oh well, this was to be a simple build but when I cut the rear deck to fit the rear suspension something forced me( an inexplicable desire to add more than I needed!) to add the chassis, engine/transaxel, and rear suspension. Damn...so much for an easy build! [/img] [/img] This may take a bit longer than predicted. Re:re-post...I think my photos are a bit ahead of themselves, but you get the idea! Patrick
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