So I saw Alonso's McLaren today...

[indycals]

And the blue is not a 'metallic' blue, but more of a candy apple blue -similar to the Johnny Lightning cars in the museum. A non-metallic blue would represent it quite well. I need to see it in the sun, but my initial impression was a bit darker than TS44, but lighter than TS15... but probably closer to TS15.

[pje]

Zak Brown going to give you a closer look this month?😎

Paul Erlendson

[indycals]

Upon further review it might be closer to TS44... I literally spent at least 5 minutes staring at the colors from up to less than 1 foot away. There is NO noticeable metallic flake to the blue, I stand by that it's closer to the Johnny Lightning cars than anything. (Under HEAVY magnification you can see a very faint metallicity - but it's clearly under the blue - it would NOT replicate at scale model size) I'm now thinking TS44 with transparent blue overcoat. And in 2017 the McLaren orange had a pearlescence to it - not so this year - straight McLaren orange.

[indycals]

[indycals]

So, going back this past weekend, I thought I was losing my mind... the orange was most definitely pearlescent. How could I have not seen that when I was literally staring at it for minutes LOOKING for the effect? Well, this explains it... I was correct both times... first time I saw it - no pearl... second time pearl. From a Jenna Fryer story about all the things that went wrong:

“McLaren purchased a car from technical partner Carlin, and though the car was orange when McLaren received it, it was not the proper McLaren “papaya orange.” It had to be repainted after the test, and that still had not been completed when Alonso crashed his McLaren-built car last Wednesday.”

[indy]

So both ways are right and no one has the "as raced" advantage LOL

Jordan

[indycals]

Yep

[pje]

Here’s the AP article on MvLaren’s effort.

apnews.com/a8653967a9714ac7a9a3ba576f712fff

Paul Erlendson

[ttocs78z28]

Good article. Doesn’t the timeline go further back? Wasn’t it also due to issues arising from Mclaren’s F1 program that either Honda refused to provide or Mclaren opted not use Honda power? This prevented the same type partner association Mclaren had in 2017 with Andretti Racing. They had to join up with Carlin, a lesser team, because the top Chevy teams were unable to accommodate or couldn’t come to agreement.

[indy]

May 20, 2019 16:58:08 GMT -5 indycals said:

“McLaren purchased a car from technical partner Carlin, and though the car was orange when McLaren received it, it was not the proper McLaren “papaya orange.” It had to be repainted after the test, and that still had not been completed when Alonso crashed his McLaren-built car last Wednesday.”

I remember catching the shade variations in the panels on the video from the Texas test. That explains it - part of the car was Carlin painted.

ttocs, it was implied that the unqualified team's previous 500 partner was threatened by their engine supplier who had an unpleasant divorce with that struggling team in some other series. To buy a setup, you have to find someone wanting to sell one. Speculation was the front-row teams with the same engine valued their setups above what the slower was willing to stomach, if they made them available at all.

Jordan