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Post by Patrick on Nov 26, 2018 20:45:13 GMT -5
Are the Gilbert, Mongoose, and Hawk chassis copies of the Brabham/Taurnac chassis? Any others? Any decal sets for any of the cars???
Patrick
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Post by jamesharvey on Nov 27, 2018 8:23:17 GMT -5
I would think your suggestion is a pretty good guess. Clint Brawner's Hawk sure seemed a lot like the Brabham. The car that Jim McElreath (a red #3) drove seemed to be a copy too. I am not sure about the Moogoose. Grant King and Dave Laycock loved to walk around the garage area and the pits at Indy looking carefully at other cars. If they saw something they liked, you could expect it to show up sooner or later. Sooner on small parts, later for entire cars. Are you building one of these?
Jim
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Post by alwaysindy on Nov 27, 2018 11:17:27 GMT -5
I have read several places that many Indycars were copies of others ideas...there was no way to patent a design, so Watson’s cars were copied by Trevis, Lotus was copied by Foyt, Vollstedt was copied by Watson, and Brabham was copied by Brawner...in 1964, Watson was given the Engineering Prize, which was weird because his Roger Ward Car was an exact replica of a Rolla Vollstedt chassis...
Tim
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Post by IndyCarModels on Nov 27, 2018 20:00:14 GMT -5
I have read several places that many Indycars were copies of others ideas...there was no way to patent a design, so Watson’s cars were copied by Trevis, Lotus was copied by Foyt, Vollstedt was copied by Watson, and Brabham was copied by Brawner...in 1964, Watson was given the Engineering Prize, which was weird because his Roger Ward Car was an exact replica of a Rolla Vollstedt chassis... Tim That was a huge deal back then. Also if anyone wants one of these cars in 1:43 just let me know, |
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Post by eagle36 on Nov 28, 2018 8:01:04 GMT -5
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Post by flashman on Nov 28, 2018 16:50:34 GMT -5
Dave Friedman's "Indianapolis Racing Memories 1961-1969" book I have says the official entry listed Andretti's car in 1966 as a "Dean Van Lines Hawk with a Brabham by Brawner chassis". [Edited above to correct it after checking the book.  ] Cameron |
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Post by Patrick on Nov 28, 2018 21:18:18 GMT -5
Are you building one of these? Jim Well I have a beautiful Dubro 1/24 slot Car body that looks really good to me. However, a good livery supported by decals would be great! Patrick |
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Post by SWT500 on Nov 29, 2018 9:47:39 GMT -5
Watson actually re-presented his award to Rolla Vollstedt that year. Rolla's 1964 design was observed during winter tire tests at the close of 1963 and was so promising it was copied by Watson. It was common practice at the time. One significant example is that Grant King was permitted to visit A.J. Foyt's Houston shop and allowed to measure and copy the Coyote chassis. The only caveat was that King run only Offys, not the V-8 used by Foyt. You will notice the resemblance.
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Post by flashman on Nov 29, 2018 12:33:02 GMT -5
The only caveat was that King run only Offys, not the V-8 used by Foyt. I wonder what Foyt would have done if King's Offy-powered copy had been faster? Probably  ...  Cameron |
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