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Post by pje on Sept 4, 2018 22:39:56 GMT -5
Back in September, 2013 I started whining and sniveling on this site looking for Lance’s McLaren M-16A kit. Through the winter I kept offering different high end kits in trade (Calvin was worried that I’d sell my home) and in March, 2014 Duane took pity on me and offered up his kit for a very reasonable price. His only desire was to see me build it! During these passing years, I’ve had the kit out on my table many times and the more I studied, the more I wanted to put my own signature on it. It’s been a lot of fun doing the research and talking with Lance, Michael and Stu about the project and I really appreciate their help. I’ve been able to gather a lot of extra parts that I want to use in my build. The wheels and tires will be the ones Michael and Lance created for Lance’s 1970 McLaren M-15 kit. Those are much more prototypical than what was available to Lance when he released the kit. I’ll also use a lot of the engine and rear suspension parts from the Indycals Shapeways site. I have not figured out how this will all go together and I’m sure I’m going to run into some challenges marrying these various pieces together, but that’s part of the fun. Right?  I also don’t want to get too far away from my Jim Clark builds, but I do feel that I owe Duane a start.  Paul Erlendson |
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Post by racerbrown on Sept 5, 2018 5:07:22 GMT -5
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Post by indy on Sept 5, 2018 9:50:17 GMT -5
That is a great looking kit. So glad that Lance did it. So who's the driver you are building?
Jordan
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Post by 2lapsdown on Sept 5, 2018 12:49:06 GMT -5
Oh boy! I have two of these on the waiting list
John
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Post by pje on Sept 5, 2018 22:51:34 GMT -5
When at first I wasn’t able to acquire a Lance Seller kit, I started to look at doing a 1/18th scale conversion. I asked a friend of mine who’s a graphic artist if he could help me clean up a set of the Roger Taylor drawings. Instead, he created a new set of line drawings that I hoped would help me in the conversion. Of course, the person I turned to for advice was Stu Benford. Around the time I was getting the Carousel M-16B disassembled and stripped, Duane came to my rescue. As it turned out, Stu was able to carry out the idea with much more expertise than I could ever have come close to. mb2501.proboards.com/thread/6074/1971-mclaren-mark-donohueThe kit I got from Duane is the Mark Donohue car. As much as I like the Team McLaren cars, I really wanted to have both the 1971 and 1972 Penske cars, so I was very happy that was the kit I ended up with. Show here are the drawings that I will still be using for setup purposes.  Paul Erlendson |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 7:58:30 GMT -5
Something in Papaya perhaps?
I have an even older Bill J. resin kit that I bought in a plastic baggie from Bill at an Indy Memorabilia show about 15 years ago. Keep after yours Paul and I just might have to dig out mine.
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Post by indy on Sept 6, 2018 10:50:45 GMT -5
Sunoco blue, nice choice!!
Jordan
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Post by hurtubise56 on Sept 6, 2018 12:23:05 GMT -5
Paul - Nice score, sometimes it helps to be "needy"! Please keep us updated on any progress! If anyone has another of these they'd like to sell me, please PM me! Oh boy! I have two of these on the waiting list John John - This is the original M16A, the current offering from Michael is the M16D, shorter, steeper nose, different engine cover, rounded cockpit front, plus more differences. The M16A hasn't been available for some time. Both excellent kits! Brian |
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Post by 2lapsdown on Sept 6, 2018 15:29:29 GMT -5
My bad, I have 2 72 McLarens, I have Peter's 71 already built.
John
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Post by pje on Feb 11, 2019 23:52:24 GMT -5
Finally a little progress. As I looked over Lance’s M16 kits and Michael’s M16 kit, I decided that I wanted to revise Lance’s kit to reflect what Michael had done in the years since Lance developed his kit. Michael first introduced his Shapeways update parts for the AMT McLarens and Eagles. They all have the same engine mounting and Michael developed his Offy’s accordingly. You can see in this first photo comparing Lance’s engine mounting and Michaels.  In wanting to do something more in the line of Michael’s model I turned to a longtime friend of mine, Dave Paar. He’s a fellow model builder, owns a beautiful 1936 Chevy hot rod and is an amateur machinist with a great little shop. We both finally found time to get together today and Dave was able to put Lance’s body in his mill vise and remove the material that I wanted. We did this for both my M16A and M16B kits today so I’m all ready when I get around to the B someday.  So here is where I’m at. I now have a clean rear bulkhead to set up the engine mounting that I want.  Paul Erlendson |
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Post by pje on Jun 11, 2019 22:01:11 GMT -5
I’ve been jumping around from one thing to another as I am wont to do, but I have been able to stick with creating a mounting holes template for my M-16A and B chassis. At first I worked at creating a drawing in AutoCAD and got as far as the four holes for the engine mounting. That left the other five point for anchoring the supports connecting the transaxle to the bulkhead and the two radius rods. I was looking at the way Michael did his M-16CD kits and then the way Kevin did his M-16C and I decided that I was going way too anal about the situation.  So, I went back to basics and decided to just go the way AMT originally designed the model and Lance created for his two kits. Therefore I’ve created a jig using a bulkhead from an AMT kit with all fourteen holes drilled. I’ll attach this to the back of Lance’s cleaned up chassis and use it to guide me in drill the holes. I still have to figure out how to hold it in place for drilling once I have it properly aligned……………………….. Paul Erlendson |
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Post by craig on Jun 11, 2019 22:29:30 GMT -5
Hi Paul, May I suggest using a small amount of five minute epoxy to hold your jig in place. I have been using this technique quite a bit lately with great results. Just snap your jig off when finished.
Look forward to the rest of the build,
Craig
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Post by pje on Jun 16, 2019 22:50:51 GMT -5
After considering Craig’s suggestion, I decided that I first wanted to make sure that my template was located perfectly on the vertical axis, so I glued a piece of sheet plastic to the bottom. That gave me more control on getting everything aligned.  I then used a very tight rubber band to hold it in place. I next marked the four engine mount holes with pencil and then removed the template to see how close I was to optimum alignment. Once I had determined the proper horizontal position for the template I drilled the four main holes. Upon completion of those, I anchored the template in place with some very expensive professional grade pins. (Round toothpicks) and then drilled the remaining smaller holes.   As you can see, the smaller holes are not perfect, but hopefully they’ll be good enough. I’ll find that out as I build up the rear suspension. I might re-drill the left outside hole.  Overall, I’m very happy that I seem to have gotten the engine itself aligned and centered just right.  Paul Erlendson |
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Post by racerbrown on Jun 17, 2019 6:40:39 GMT -5
looking good sir! duane |
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Post by indy on Jun 17, 2019 8:43:39 GMT -5
Nice clean prep work and the holes look good.
Jordan
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