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Post by harveythedog2 on Apr 10, 2016 16:07:15 GMT -5
They are 1/43rd scale and resin. Some are crude but some are quite nice and they have several to choose from. With some patience they look very nice.
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Post by IndyCarModels on Apr 10, 2016 17:02:15 GMT -5
I have built several in the last few months. Not the easiest but they can come out pretty good. Make sure you dry fit everything before you actually cement it. A lot of the radius rods, etc bend extremely easy and sometimes its best to make your own parts. I predrill all of the holes before I primer and make sure everything fits. Also the decals are okay but I prefer to use Michael's as they are so much better.
I just order the 53, 54, 55 & 56 winners. I have built the winners from 1957 to 1964 plus 1970-71. The roadsters are pretty basic while the rear engine cars take a lot more work.
I just ordered some cars from Ampersand models and from what I've heard they are much better.
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Post by Mr. Paxton on Apr 10, 2016 17:16:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the feedback...
I am a HUGE fan of Ampersand and want as many of those that I can get my hands on. I have 12 in my collection so far.
I am not a big fan of resin models. That is why I was asking. He has some great models though! Lots of stuff you cant find anywhere else. But I think I will pass on them. More because they are resin...
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Post by ampersand on Apr 11, 2016 5:57:46 GMT -5
I recently posted this comment in the "1/43rd Scale Indy Cars" thread further down this page, and I still think that M.A. Scale Models' business ethics - or lack thereoff! - means that dealings with him should be made with caution. I'm sure Lance, Calvin or Kevin would feel the same way if their models were being allegedly ripped off in a similar fashion:
"I notice that there has been some mention of M.A. Scale Models in this thread, and while his range certainly is impressive I think you should know his masters are all allegedly rip-offs of other peoples' work. My own March 84C and 86C have been allegedly copied which I am obviously not too happy about, but unfortunately the cost of litigation in the U.S. legal system prevents me or other European manufacturers to do much about it. I can only hope that collectors will prefer the originals - which are cast in white metal rather than resin - over the allegedly ripped-off versions."
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Post by ampersand on Apr 12, 2016 13:33:52 GMT -5
I just order the 53, 54, 55 & 56 winners. I have built the winners from 1957 to 1964 plus 1970-71. The roadsters are pretty basic while the rear engine cars take a lot more work. Terry, the models you mention are also available in white metal from the original manufacturers, and I am sure that they will be much easier to work with. They are probably a little more expensive, but also better detailed and with better decals than the MA resin ones. I know it can be difficult finding 1/43rd scale Indy Cars in the US, but Ghost Models carries most of the models in their own Dog Leg range or as kits from SMTS. They are all produced by SMTS. If you have problems getting them let me know and I will be glad to help on this side of the pond. Also, by buying the original models you will know that you will have supported somebody who has invested time and money in bringing new products out for us all to enjoy! |
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Post by IndyCarModels on Apr 12, 2016 13:43:48 GMT -5
I just order the 53, 54, 55 & 56 winners. I have built the winners from 1957 to 1964 plus 1970-71. The roadsters are pretty basic while the rear engine cars take a lot more work. Terry, the models you mention are also available in white metal from the original manufacturers, and I am sure that they will be much easier to work with. They are probably a little more expensive, but also better detailed and with better decals than the MA resin ones. I know it can be difficult finding 1/43rd scale Indy Cars in the US, but Ghost Models carries most of the models in their own Dog Leg range or as kits from SMTS. They are all produced by SMTS. If you have problems getting them let me know and I will be glad to help on this side of the pond. Also, by buying the original models you will know that you will have supported somebody who has invested time and money in bringing new products out for us all to enjoy! I would gladly buy them from someone else but have not been able to find them. I have looked at the Ghost Models web page and I assumed they were the same. So much for assuming. I will start buying from them when I can. Did you finish my cars for me. Just curious? |
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Post by Mr. Paxton on Apr 12, 2016 17:32:19 GMT -5
Terry, the models you mention are also available in white metal from the original manufacturers, and I am sure that they will be much easier to work with. They are probably a little more expensive, but also better detailed and with better decals than the MA resin ones. I know it can be difficult finding 1/43rd scale Indy Cars in the US, but Ghost Models carries most of the models in their own Dog Leg range or as kits from SMTS. They are all produced by SMTS. If you have problems getting them let me know and I will be glad to help on this side of the pond. Also, by buying the original models you will know that you will have supported somebody who has invested time and money in bringing new products out for us all to enjoy! I would gladly buy them from someone else but have not been able to find them. I have looked at the Ghost Models web page and I assumed they were the same. So much for assuming. I will start buying from them when I can. Did you finish my cars for me. Just curious? I too am looking for metal models... can't stand resin. I have looked a Ghost Models and the Dog Leg line but have shuttered a bit at the price of $100 for a kit! Thank you for the insight in to MA. I was impressed with the selection and wanted to know if anyone has had personal experience. Now I know to stay away! |
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Post by IndyCarModels on Apr 12, 2016 18:57:24 GMT -5
I would gladly buy them from someone else but have not been able to find them. I have looked at the Ghost Models web page and I assumed they were the same. So much for assuming. I will start buying from them when I can. Did you finish my cars for me. Just curious? I too am looking for metal models... can't stand resin. I have looked a Ghost Models and the Dog Leg line but have shuttered a bit at the price of $100 for a kit! Thank you for the insight in to MA. I was impressed with the selection and wanted to know if anyone has had personal experience. Now I know to stay away! I agree about the price. Also if you go on evil bay and look at the home store for 77zcar you will find some kits also. |
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Post by mrindy77 on Apr 12, 2016 21:39:51 GMT -5
I recently posted this comment in the "1/43rd Scale Indy Cars" thread further down this page, and I still think that M.A. Scale Models' business ethics - or lack thereoff! - means that dealings with him should be made with caution. I'm sure Lance, Calvin or Kevin would feel the same way if their models were being allegedly ripped off in a similar fashion: "I notice that there has been some mention of M.A. Scale Models in this thread, and while his range certainly is impressive I think you should know his masters are all allegedly rip-offs of other peoples' work. My own March 84C and 86C have been allegedly copied which I am obviously not too happy about, but unfortunately the cost of litigation in the U.S. legal system prevents me or other European manufacturers to do much about it. I can only hope that collectors will prefer the originals - which are cast in white metal rather than resin - over the allegedly ripped-off versions." Bo Not all of his models are copies, but many are and they are bad copies. I have built many of the Indy cars he has as I build for collectors that want to try and complete the entire indy winner genre. They require a lot of work and cleanup to make a presentable model and with time and effort they can be done. I will not buy kits from him. He offered to buy a master of mine for $100. I told him that was really insulting and I have not dealt with him since. I'll still build the models people send me as many are the versions available. Many of the older cars are copies of the old John Day kits, others are SMTS, Ampersand, and some are originals. If you are a builder/collector they can easily be identified. Here is a batch i just finished.   |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 15:17:13 GMT -5
I just started building an MA Scale Models kit for the 1967 Indy winner. I've built four kits from him previously and agree that they're somewhat crude and take a lot of effort to make look good. This kit is no exception, with holes in the resin to be filled and a one-page instruction sheet showing where things kind of go. I discovered two of the four wheels were lacking material on the edge of the rim, so sent Mike an email requesting two replacements. Waited two weeks for a reply and got none. Called him and asked if he got the email. He replied he kind of remembered reading it. I asked if he planned on sending me the replacements and he asked if I had bought the kit from him, which I didn't, rather from a model buddy of mine here in Tucson. Told him the kit was unstated and all parts were still sealed in the bags. His attitude was extremely abrupt and seemed like he thought I was trying to scam him. His final words were "I'll see what I can do". That was two weeks ago and still nothing in my mailbox. I've been building 1/43 scale since the mid-80's. Every kit I've had an issue with from the European kit providers has proven to be an attitude of complete cooperation. Within a week of an email request I get a replacement of the faulty part or bad decal - from halfway around the world! It seems MA doesn't believe in supporting his products. Sad.
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Post by IndyCarModels on Jan 19, 2018 16:16:12 GMT -5
I just started building an MA Scale Models kit for the 1967 Indy winner. I've built four kits from him previously and agree that they're somewhat crude and take a lot of effort to make look good. This kit is no exception, with holes in the resin to be filled and a one-page instruction sheet showing where things kind of go. I discovered two of the four wheels were lacking material on the edge of the rim, so sent Mike an email requesting two replacements. Waited two weeks for a reply and got none. Called him and asked if he got the email. He replied he kind of remembered reading it. I asked if he planned on sending me the replacements and he asked if I had bought the kit from him, which I didn't, rather from a model buddy of mine here in Tucson. Told him the kit was unstated and all parts were still sealed in the bags. His attitude was extremely abrupt and seemed like he thought I was trying to scam him. His final words were "I'll see what I can do". That was two weeks ago and still nothing in my mailbox. I've been building 1/43 scale since the mid-80's. Every kit I've had an issue with from the European kit providers has proven to be an attitude of complete cooperation. Within a week of an email request I get a replacement of the faulty part or bad decal - from halfway around the world! It seems MA doesn't believe in supporting his products. Sad. He's quite the business man. |
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Post by realskeptic on Mar 25, 2019 14:07:13 GMT -5
They are 1/43rd scale and resin. Some are crude but some are quite nice and they have several to choose from. With some patience they look very nice. I have bought about 15 cars from Mike. Always a professional. Mike doesn’t need to copy other people’s cars, he goes and measures the real car, or knows people that will do it for him. But there is always some person who can’t say anything except bad stuff about others. Give Mike a chance, you’ll be glad you did. The man builds awesome cars you that won’t find anywhere else. |
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Post by mrindy77 on Mar 26, 2019 11:28:58 GMT -5
I have built versions of his resin cast cars where I have many of the original John Day kits. The parts are identical as are the bodies. The 80's Marches are copies of Ampersands with the caveat that he has combined/assembled some of the parts and made a casting from the 'new' part. Some of the kits are newly mastered but there are a number that are copies. I have probably built around 40 or so of his kits and I cannot recall where I have not had to fix/recreate/machine or build from scratch some part that was incompletely molded mis-formed or broken. All of the radius rods, steering arm linkages, wing struts I just scrap and replace with brass rod and than chrome plate. None of those parts are ever straight or usable in my opinion. I know what to expect when someone sends me one to build so its no surprise to me that usually the only usable part is the body and chassis and wheels.(at least on the Indy cars through the 50's)
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Post by harveythedog2 on Mar 26, 2019 13:07:12 GMT -5
Okay guys. We can agree to disagree. Let's keep it fun!
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