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Post by Patrick on Aug 6, 2015 17:12:09 GMT -5
Yes, I'm astonished that I'm trying to do this on the coffee table, but...  I'll focus on Jack's '70 Monaco car as My heart went out to him that day...   So, now that I've started I have the usual Heller problem...what tires to use? Unlike the restored cars using slicks Jack's car ran with treaded Goodyears. Any suggestions for me?? I hate Heller crappy tires. Maybe some of those tires from Corner 5 Hobbies? Patrick |
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Post by Calvin on Aug 6, 2015 19:39:10 GMT -5
Wow your building out of the box! Nothing wrong with that IMO....sometimes you have to do something straight forward.
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Post by racerbrown on Aug 6, 2015 21:29:52 GMT -5
patrick could build on the back seat of his car and it would still come out great!
a bad to the bone car. looking forward to seeing it built.
duane
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Post by Patrick on Aug 6, 2015 22:00:02 GMT -5
Thanks guys.
Patrick
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Post by Art Laski on Aug 6, 2015 22:24:27 GMT -5
Out of the box? Patrick, every build I've ever seen of yours required "Out of the Box" thinking, but this is different. Are you sure you're up to it? You might have to look at instructions!
I'm sure it will turn out great!
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Post by kurzheck on Aug 7, 2015 12:30:40 GMT -5
Guess I better drag my butt out of retirement.
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Post by Patrick on Aug 7, 2015 13:54:44 GMT -5
Art, I've had to look at the instructions 4 times now to do it right! LOL!! Trevor, You love the woods too much!!
Patrick
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Post by pje on Aug 7, 2015 16:20:48 GMT -5
Patrick, would tires out of one of the Fujimi LeMans cars be close? Ferrari 330P3/4 or Porsche 917?
GT40 is probably too small.
Paul Erlendson
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Post by kurzheck on Aug 7, 2015 20:30:18 GMT -5
The 330 tires are the same as in the GT40. My "copies" of the Fujimi 917 tires are tweaked to fit the smaller diameter F1 wheels. Kevin K F5000 tires would be great too but they're slicks.
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Post by flashman on Aug 10, 2015 9:37:55 GMT -5
Patrick, I recommend using the Model Factory Hiro 1970s Prototype tires. I have this kit and some of the other Heller F1 and prototype kits in my "someday" stash, and although they may not be 100% accurate for any of these kits, the MFH tires are a massive improvement over the horrendous Heller tires. BNA Model World currently has 2 sets of them in stock for a really good price ( www.bnamodelworld.com/model-factory-hiro/mfh-p906). I bought some sets of these tires from BNA several years ago, and the standard shipping from Australia to the USA was surprisingly reasonable cost and time. I was also lucky to have a resin-casting friend who recently made me some resin copies of these tires, so I have enough to cover the kits I have. If you'd like me to post some photos showing both the MFH and the kit tires for comparison, let me know and I'll work on it tonight after work. Cameron |
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Post by mjjracer on Aug 10, 2015 13:42:00 GMT -5
Patrick, I recommend using the Model Factory Hiro 1970s Prototype tires. I have this kit and some of the other Heller F1 and prototype kits in my "someday" stash, and although they may not be 100% accurate for any of these kits, the MFH tires are a massive improvement over the horrendous Heller tires. BNA Model World currently has 2 sets of them in stock for a really good price ( www.bnamodelworld.com/model-factory-hiro/mfh-p906). I bought some sets of these tires from BNA several years ago, and the standard shipping from Australia to the USA was surprisingly reasonable cost and time. I was also lucky to have a resin-casting friend who recently made me some resin copies of these tires, so I have enough to cover the kits I have. If you'd like me to post some photos showing both the MFH and the kit tires for comparison, let me know and I'll work on it tonight after work. Cameron Patrick, if you would like a set I have one you are welcome to. I ordered it with some other things from BMA because they looked cool, but they would not work on the model for which I ordered them. They really are nice. Let me know, Mark J |
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Post by flashman on Aug 10, 2015 23:46:00 GMT -5
Here is a look at the MFH tires on left compared to Heller kit tires on right, one front and rear of each.   Cameron |
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Post by Patrick on Aug 12, 2015 1:20:01 GMT -5
Yes, the MFH tires are the way to go. I put a set of them on the F5000 McLaren M10 that I made. Mark, your kindness is showing again. I'd be honored to accept. PM me and we'll talk. I'll also follow up on other resources. Corner 5?  I've also been trying to get a definitive answer on the color of Jack's BT33. I may settle for a lacquer from Testors, Mopar Big Bad Blue over a grey primer for the main body color. We'll see with some test shots tomorrow. Patrick |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2017 7:26:40 GMT -5
"THIS WAY UP" made BT33 in 1/43 scale and instructions sheet gives a mix of acrylic Tamiya paint
8 parts X-2 white+ 5 parts X-4 blue + 2 parts X-8 Yellow
You could try or use with similar paint
I just did test (because I have also a Heller kit in my future projets) but with XF matt blue.
For me mixing is too greenish and I think increase the ratio of blue
I plan to use also the same basic color with airbrush but in lacquer paints(Mr Color or decanted Tamiya TS spray)
(again sorry for my english skill)
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Post by Patrick on Jul 17, 2017 20:13:09 GMT -5
Olo,
The color of Jack's cars seem to change from a "hunter green", a medium dark green to the turquoise body. I've been told that they are the same color only different appearing because of the types of film used (no digital then!). Perhaps, but I will paint mine with a rattle can, "Montana" brand spray paint called...Heaven (the turquoise)! What's your idea on this subject?
Patrick
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Post by Patrick on Sept 24, 2017 23:46:52 GMT -5
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Post by indy on Sept 25, 2017 8:18:44 GMT -5
Some really nice details there, Patrick. I remember this WIP so it is nice to see it being worked on again.
Jordan
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Post by Chris on Sept 25, 2017 18:45:50 GMT -5
Sweet Build Big Brother, good to see Ya building away!! Chris
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Post by Patrick on Sept 27, 2017 12:58:24 GMT -5
Finished!  I'll never forget the day, 47 years ago, watching (thanks to ABC/WWofS) the 1970 Monaco GP as Sir Jack was leading the race, with Rindt quickly making up time, easily sitting up for the last turn and...you know the rest. My heart quickly went out to this veteran driver, who was 3 times World Champion, make a mistake and it cost him so dearly. I couldn't do that car which represented this man's life work. Philosophy time over. Back to building! Patrick |
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Post by raceparke on Sept 27, 2017 14:20:09 GMT -5
I also remember that broadcast. ". . . . and the agony of defeat."
Has it been only 47 years?? LOL
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Post by raceparke on Sept 27, 2017 14:20:52 GMT -5
Great build of a very cool racer.
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Post by flashman on Sept 27, 2017 16:45:38 GMT -5
Finished! I'll never forget the day, 47 years ago, watching (thanks to ABC/WWofS) the 1970 Monaco GP as Sir Jack was leading the race, with Rindt quickly making up time, easily sitting up for the last turn and...you know the rest. My heart quickly went out to this veteran driver, who was 3 times World Champion, make a mistake and it cost him so dearly. I couldn't do that car which represented this man's life work. Philosophy time over. Back to building! Patrick
I didn't see that broadcast but a video of that last lap can be found on YouTube ().
But you reminded me that the book "Bobby Rahal: The Graceful Champion" by Gordon Kirby includes a photo the teenage Bobby took of Brabham nosed into the haybales right in front of Bobby and his family, who were on a European vacation and were watching the race right there at the Gasworks hairpin!
I have dreams of using this BT-33 kit and Heller's Lotus 49B to make a diorama of that scene! I have both kits in my stash. Could probably use the Jack Brabham figure from Immense Miniatures for extra realism. 
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Post by Joel on Aug 10, 2018 15:08:49 GMT -5
Patrick,
Technically being new here (once again), when I found your build of Sir Black Jack's BT33, I just couldn't resist reading through it. Just a fantastic build of a most difficult Heller kit. And then I watched the video of the race. To me Sir Jack Brabham will always be a World Champion of the highest order.
Joel
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Post by Patrick on Aug 15, 2018 14:39:22 GMT -5
Thanks Joel and to all that gave encouragement! Heller kits and I are best friends.
Patrick
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