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Post by wrencher on Mar 31, 2015 14:43:21 GMT -5
Hello all, does anyone have any detail photos of the rear area (differential) area of the 1980 Chapparal? I know that there is something there besides a flat plate, but I just can't find any clear photos of it. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks. Howard Weaver aka Wrencher.
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Post by Michael Chriss on Mar 31, 2015 17:01:45 GMT -5
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Post by Michael Chriss on Mar 31, 2015 17:04:32 GMT -5
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Post by 2lapsdown on Mar 31, 2015 17:33:00 GMT -5
I think I know where Howard would like to go with this. I have the kit and for years I've been trying to figure out how to do the rear end without making a mess of it. These photos are great. I guess someday I'll just have to get my nerve up and go at it.
John
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Post by macsparty on May 12, 2015 8:37:27 GMT -5
I'm with you, John, this has been on my to-do list for years. It's my all-time favorite car, so I don't want to mess it up either!
These are some great shots I haven't seen before. Thanks for that.
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Post by Calvin on May 12, 2015 10:52:51 GMT -5
If anyone can name the races in 1980 they used and didn't use sliding skirts I'll start a detailed WIP thread on my 1/25 2k! Also if you can name the race that had my favorite bodywork for the 2k I'll put you first in line for my future 1/12 scale 2k kit. What a rip off game!  |
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Post by jamesharvey on May 12, 2015 15:12:25 GMT -5
I am dying here. This is why I go nuts. I have this model from Bill Jorgensen finished years ago. If I go back and try to make all of my models correct, then I may as well forget about building any new ones. So, my mantra (sp?)is, that if it is finished, it is finished. I will try to do better on the next one. Does anyone else feel this way?
Jim
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Post by 2lapsdown on May 12, 2015 15:21:05 GMT -5
Jim, I feel that way to a point. But the back of the 2K is begging for more detail. That blunt rear end just doesn't look right. Calvin, since you love this car so much, lead the way so Scott and I can build ours right.
John
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Post by Art Laski on May 12, 2015 16:45:35 GMT -5
Yeah, Calvin, let's get this deal going! I'm going to build one too. I just ordered the paint today.
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Post by 2lapsdown on May 12, 2015 16:54:19 GMT -5
Well between Art and Calvin this should be very edumacational. I think Art should show us his ideas too. This is shaping up to be very interesting.
John
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Post by Calvin on May 12, 2015 20:03:24 GMT -5
So, my mantra (sp?)is, that if it is finished, it is finished. I will try to do better on the next one. Does anyone else feel this way? Jim Sometimes but if I get motivated about the car again I will redo it all over.....especially if its a rare resin kit. |
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Post by Calvin on May 12, 2015 20:06:31 GMT -5
Yeah, Calvin, let's get this deal going! I'm going to build one too. I just ordered the paint today. Oh my! I feel like I'm getting sucked into this now!  Its hard for me to pass up any 2k WIP build up invite! LOL I'm curious to know what kind of paint you ordered? |
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Post by Calvin on May 12, 2015 20:11:36 GMT -5
Well between Art and Calvin this should be very edumacational. I think Art should show us his ideas too. This is shaping up to be very interesting. John To say the least, yes!  I still have a dream of producing an overkill, overwhelming, overboard 1/12 scale Chaparral 2k resin kit. Then I still have that stupid 1/1 scale Chaparral 2k I started on many years ago. I'll tell you what...if Art starts a Chaparral 2k WIP I'll start one as well......  |
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Post by Calvin on May 12, 2015 20:16:40 GMT -5
Hey! this is cool! We talking about Chaparral 2k's! This doesn't happen too often!
The one of last of the successful cowboy IndyCar teams! The Texas Gold Chaparral, Jim Hall, and Lone Star JR!
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Post by pje on May 13, 2015 0:17:25 GMT -5
Ever since I picked up my copy of Scale Auto Enthusiast in 1981 I’ve been planning on building this car. The mag contained a wonderfully complete set of plans draw up by I believe Tom Gaffney. He was going to first build a curb side model and then a full blown detailed one, but it was never meant to be. From those drawings came the Ken Glen model that I got my hands on as soon as I saw the ad in Scale Auto. Vacuform plastic body and a very strange resin chassis that still feels tacky after all these years. Then I got a hold of a Formula 1 1/43rd scale kit which is just outstanding.
Finally Bill Jorgensen’s model and I started looking at how I really wanted to build it, or how I really wanted the kit to go together. Bill’s kit cries out to be remastered to go together more like Calvin’s Penske PC18. Maybe then after 35 years, I’ll finally get around to building it.
Paul Erlendson
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Post by Art Laski on May 13, 2015 0:25:10 GMT -5
Yeah, Calvin, let's get this deal going! I'm going to build one too. I just ordered the paint today. Oh my! I feel like I'm getting sucked into this now! Its hard for me to pass up any 2k WIP build up invite! LOL I'm curious to know what kind of paint you ordered? I thought I would try Pennzoil Yellow Pearl from Scalefinishes.com. I'm not sure how the Pearl is going to work out, but I believe the original paint had a touch of pearl in it. So we'll see... |
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Post by Calvin on May 13, 2015 1:27:34 GMT -5
I have the attached info on the paint color here. mb2501.proboards.com/post/51332This is one thing is what makes the paint color tricky on the Pennzoil Chaparral is the special PPG Yellow used on it as these papers call it "metallic marbling yellow" Its for sure not just plain yellow but it has some bling to it....to what extent its hard saying....I know the later Pennzoil cars like from the late 90's really had a lot of pearl to it which IMO is WAY too much for the Chaparral 2k paint job. I was planning to do some kind of layering of Tamiya Yellow and pearl and try my best to tone the pearl down and make it somehow look more marble-like? LOL! Who knows what to do really? |
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Post by Calvin on May 13, 2015 1:49:40 GMT -5
I think this old post from Sandy pretty much sums up how slight the metallic pearl was on the paint job (Almost nonexistent) Also a side note the car crashed at Pocono was the new March 82c which by that point the Chaparral 2k was retired from competition but I'm sure the paint color stayed the same. The 2k was used from 1979 Indy - 1982 Cleveland Here's some photos of a piece of Rutherford's 1982 Pennzoil Chaparral a good friend sent me years ago. To hold it in my hand at 'book lenght' under normal light it looks like just a bright yellow. To hold it 'nose close' under a bright light you can see very, very small metallic (possible pearl) particles in THIS example as it raced at Pocono, 1982. So for modeling purposes an good bright yellow will probably do just fine. Does anyone have photos of this car at this race and info on the crash? Sandy    The 1982 Pocono Crash  |
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Post by Calvin on May 13, 2015 1:55:28 GMT -5
Also in this picture from conceptcarz shows the slight metallic pearl in the yellow - basically almost nothing if it were to be replicated in 1/25 scale.  |
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Post by Calvin on May 13, 2015 2:07:23 GMT -5
This is the 1980 Michigan 200 car as it has my favorite body work on it....very thin front and rear wings and the different size rear wing endplates - the right one is larger than the left!  |
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Post by oldphotos on May 13, 2015 10:44:13 GMT -5
When I was working at the speedway when this car was running I became good friends with the Pennzoil PR people and all they could say about the color of the car that it was Pennzoil Yellow a trade secret.
I have been told that it starts with Brock School Bus Yellow, and many other colors so you can guess about this color all you want, only a few people know for sure. All the Pennzoil race cars where painted with this color.
If you look at photos this color changes with the light, I have photos of the car a darker Yellow to a lighter Yellow taken on the same day at the track.
So guess away because I don't think there is a correct answer. Unless someone from Pennzoil leaks the correct answer.
Oldphotos
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Post by jamesharvey on May 13, 2015 13:08:53 GMT -5
I just love reading these color discussions. They are fascinating usually ending with a definitive answer from Walt or someone else who was there. Aren't we lucky to have this forum to share the fun!!
Jim
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