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Post by kip on Jan 31, 2015 8:52:11 GMT -5
Possible future project. Hate to say it but I need some help on the color here. The Jack Fox book says blue, white and red. That covers a lot of ground. Any color pictures would be much appreciated. All I have are two black and white photos. If I am not mistaken, this is the 57/58 winner in disguise?  ?? kip |
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Post by Calvin on Jan 31, 2015 11:36:21 GMT -5
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Post by kip on Jan 31, 2015 12:53:13 GMT -5
Thanks Calvin. I knew you would come up with some shots.
kip
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Post by alterrenner on Feb 2, 2015 6:16:56 GMT -5
At a few minutes before nine, kip sends out a plea for a color photo of an obscure Indy car. By eleven-thirty, Calvin not only has the requested photo, but has posted it!
Calvin; you must have an incredible filing system for a huge data base!
I stand in utter awe.
--Frank
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 8:54:27 GMT -5
After his retirement, Red started a very successful truck/restaurant business near Muncie, Indiana. This picture hung inside the diner and was huge. Certainly gave his customers something to talk about
Tom T.
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Post by 2lapsdown on Feb 2, 2015 9:20:15 GMT -5
Apparently, the usefulness of the roll bar was insignificant.
John
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Post by Calvin on Feb 2, 2015 15:15:28 GMT -5
Calvin; you must have an incredible filing system for a huge data base! I stand in utter awe. --Frank Yep, Ive been saving pics for years....and have most of them organized for easy finding. |
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Post by harveythedog2 on Feb 3, 2015 12:18:42 GMT -5
I agree John. Yikes!
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Post by Calvin on Feb 3, 2015 16:48:48 GMT -5
Apparently, the usefulness of the roll bar was insignificant. John Looks safe to me!.....Just duck down before you roll over......RIGHT? |
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Post by racerbrown on Feb 3, 2015 20:51:41 GMT -5
Apparently, the usefulness of the roll bar was insignificant. John Looks safe to me!.....Just duck down before you roll over......RIGHT? duck down and kiss your (expletive deleted) goodbye! duane |
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Post by clm1545 on Feb 3, 2015 21:20:00 GMT -5
It's a lot more than most cars had, back then. When Gurney showed up with a full face helmet, a lot of guys called him a sissy. How many NASCAR drivers wanted no part of the HANS device?
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Post by alterrenner on Feb 4, 2015 6:17:53 GMT -5
Roll-over bars weren't even required until 1959! Apparently, the bar on this car met the letter of the law, and may have been an after thought.
--Frank
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Post by johnwebster on Feb 4, 2015 22:34:23 GMT -5
The early school of thought on roll bars was that the driver's neck and body would bend enough that no serious damage would be done if the roll bar was less than 3" below the top of the helmet. Later SCCA rules mandated that the roll bar be 3" above the top of the helmet to prevent impact damage. I suspect the AAA, USAC, CART and IndyCar rules evolved the same way.
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Post by oldphotos on Feb 5, 2015 0:02:09 GMT -5
When USAC mandated roll bars on all Midgets, Sprints and Champ Cars including Indy Cars, In 1959.
Early in the year before Indy a midget or Sprint Car driver flipped his race car and broke his arm when it got tangled in the roll bar. USAC was thinking about BANDDING roll bars because they were dangerous, Thankfully
that didn't happen.
When Roll cages were made mandatory some of the cages were just bolted to the frames and some of the tubing was not safe at all. After they made the cages safe they found that they needed are arm restraints to keep the driver arms from getting broken when a car flipped.
So the early roll bars were just an attempt at early safety just like the first crash helmets, At least they learned over the years and made the cars a lot safer.
Oldphotos
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