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Post by wrencher on Jan 29, 2015 23:51:02 GMT -5
Hi all, I just saw "Old Calhoun's" glue bomb save of the 1946 winner that George Robson won with at Indy. Good job. I started digging through my closet stash and found a Jorgenson kit of this car. Not much came with this "kit". Mainly just the body, which is pretty nice. For the last few days, I've been collecting reference material to, at sometime in the near future, help me build this project. Not much material to be found about this car on the web. I don't have and can't afford many reference books for these cars and wouldn't know which ones to get anyway. Would antone have some clear photos of the front and rear suspension on this car that they could send me? I really need some help on this one. I guess that there is one at the Indy museum, but it's too far for me to travel now. Thanks for any help that I can get on this one. Regards, Howard Weaver, aka wrencher.
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Post by kip on Jan 30, 2015 10:22:01 GMT -5
Found several pictures, hope they help!    This is the "sister" car to the winner.  kip |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2015 13:31:48 GMT -5
I have some detailed shots of the cockpit interior, I will post them when I find them.
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Post by Calvin on Jan 30, 2015 14:25:34 GMT -5
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Post by raceparke on Jan 30, 2015 15:16:34 GMT -5
Wow! Great pix. Close up detail and that wonderful dome on his head.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2015 15:32:01 GMT -5
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Post by wrencher on Jan 30, 2015 18:34:18 GMT -5
Wow, Thanks to you guys. These photos are exactly what I need. Great close up pics. I had suspected that the rear end had the old buggy spring that went from one side to the other, just like the old Fords had, but I couldn't see it clearly until these photos. What surprised me was the liberal use of universal joints in various parts of the suspension. I know those old U-joints and the strongest part of them was the 5/16" bolts that evertthing pivoted on. At the time though, it was probably state of the art. Thanks again guys, this project just moved up a notch in the "To Do" stack. Regards, Howard Weaver, aka wrencher.
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Post by jamesharvey on Jan 31, 2015 12:57:14 GMT -5
Howard,
I have a duplicate set of photos that I took at the IMS Museum including close-ups of both the front and rear axles and suspension. The guard was kind enough to let me inside the rope when I explained I was building a model of this car. Please send your address to me and I will mail them to you.
Jim
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Post by alterrenner on Feb 1, 2015 8:12:03 GMT -5
The entire forum must thank that guard! What a guy!
--Frank
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Post by wrencher on Feb 13, 2015 12:58:22 GMT -5
Thank you Jim for the color photos. The detail was just what I need. The color seems to help a lot to sort out the different parts to the suspension. One thing that I noticed though, the color photos show that the car has hydraulic shock absorbers and the B&W photos the car has friction shocks. Just a small difference, but worth noting. Thanks again for your help. Wrencher.
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Post by jamesharvey on Feb 13, 2015 14:54:02 GMT -5
I think this car or its sister may have made the race in 1947, 1948, and 1949. It is possible that the shocks were changed for those races and were left as is when the restoration was done. Old photos or Calvin might know. Good luck with this. What you doing to do with the grill?
Jim
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Post by alwaysindy on Feb 13, 2015 22:28:12 GMT -5
Howard:
I'm having he*l posting pictures but I'm sure these guys will know this site...it's called Wesley Winterink" or something like that . It has a color picture of the rear on race morning with what I believe is this closest color match. Several people on here have told me that the Museum car color is different from original. The Wallen DVD of '46 shows the car during qualifying and the race. The race day car had white tape on the nose and massively over wrapped white tape on oil and radiator caps. The March/ April 2008 issue of Vintage Motorsport has this cars sister on the cover and a gorgeous 7 page color spread inside. That car has been restored "supposedly" to it's original specs. I have the same kit partly started, and will follow your build closely. I got stopped trying to figure out how to do the nose grill ?!$&@*%#?£€ The angles and dimensions on this thing are very odd. The engine is slanted off center and driveshaft goes by drivers right hip. Does your kit have an engine bay? Mine does and I have the supercharged Six complete. Again, I'll try to post soon. Might be cool if one of us built the qualifying trim, and the other the race trim?
If you want, I can send you the mag if you'll return it after the build. Just let me know if I can help.
Tim
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Post by alterrenner on Feb 14, 2015 6:32:36 GMT -5
The Vintage Motorsport article was a great piece of journalism. Great reference! I believe the article said the car was the Indy winner's sister car, but how much difference could their be? (he said, leaving himself wide open)
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Post by wrencher on Feb 14, 2015 12:54:32 GMT -5
Hi Tim, my kit is a Jorgensen curbside kit with no engine. I didn't know that any other version existed until now. I haven't done much with it yet, just collecting reference materials and pre-planning the build. The grill will definitely be a problem with this one. I couldn't find the color pics on that photo site you mentioned, so the color is still not fixed in my mind. I like the shade of blue in the museum's car, but I want it to look like it was on race day. Right now I just have too much on my work bench. 8 cars in various stages started. I need to get them done. Not enough time in a day anymore. Life just keeps getting in the way. About that magazine that you have, could you E-mail me some scans? I would hate it if something happened to it if you loaned it to me, but I'd really like to see them. Regards, H. W.
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