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Post by wrencher on Jan 27, 2015 17:36:02 GMT -5
What would be a good red color shade match for the "Plum" color described for the 1921 Indy winner. I know that there are a multitude of red shades, but I don't really know just what Plum red would be. Yes, I have been to the produce section at the grocery store. Doesn't help. Thanks, Howard Weaver, AKA Wrencher.
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Post by Calvin on Jan 28, 2015 3:32:55 GMT -5
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Post by indycals on Jan 28, 2015 3:42:58 GMT -5
That's probably what I'd go with.
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Post by clm1545 on Jan 28, 2015 12:47:19 GMT -5
Well, Calvin, my memory is a bit hazy on the color. I'm quite sure that the car was not pink. Pick a color you think is "plum" (they vary in color), and go for it. If it is not just exactly correct, who will ever know?
I don't have that kit, but Etzel/ARM kits usually have colors listed on the instructions.
How about a WIP. wrencher? You can get some Calvin points, they are every bit as good as most airline miles.
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Post by 1961redlegs on Jan 28, 2015 12:49:04 GMT -5
I have a can of garnet from Belton Molotow that I'm using for the Roscoe Sarles Frontenac I have plans to build shortly. It is a really close match to the Morocco Red Chris Etzel recommended for the plum-colored 1920 Frontenacs.
I'm at work right now but when I get home I'll try to post a picture of the Belton Molotow Garnet.
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Post by 2lapsdown on Jan 28, 2015 13:47:30 GMT -5
As Craig said,
"Pick a color you think is "plum" (they vary in color), and go for it. If it is not just exactly correct, who will ever know?"
I'm with Craig. I don't know of anyone that would be able to tell you that you chose the wrong color. Make yourself happy with it, nobody else matters.
John
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Post by wrencher on Jan 28, 2015 16:40:11 GMT -5
Everyone tells me that I should know just exactly what the correct shade Plum Red should be because they say they saw me in some old photos taken at the racetrack on that day, but they are mistaking me for my twin brother. Wrencher.
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Post by indycals on Jan 28, 2015 16:52:33 GMT -5
Are you and your twin the guy I see at both ends of the starting lineup photos from the era?
(Seriously... look at some of those old starting lineup photos on display in the museum - you will see the same guy at both ends of the photos in many of the years.)
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Post by johnwebster on Jan 29, 2015 0:30:06 GMT -5
That's because those old panaroma photos were taken with a camera mounted on a clockwork driven pivot. The camera started pointed one direction and slowly rotated about 45º. After the camera panned past one end people had about 20 seconds to run behind the camera and pose at the other end.
When we were going to Cass, WV to ride behind the old logging locomotives around 1995-2005 there was a photographer with one of those cameras that used to get everybody to pose in front of the locomotives for him. The end runners were accompanied by much hilarity and lots of stumbling. The photographer would mail you a rolled 12" X 48" photo for about $30. At that price it made sense to get in the picture twice.
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Post by indycals on Jan 29, 2015 0:44:54 GMT -5
What makes it particularly interesting is that it's the same guy every year. I'm guessing he probably did it for close to 10 years.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 11:45:29 GMT -5
So, in other words, he played both ends against the middle...
sorry
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Post by wrencher on Feb 9, 2015 23:03:06 GMT -5
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Post by wrencher on Feb 9, 2015 23:06:03 GMT -5
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Post by clm1545 on Feb 9, 2015 23:30:52 GMT -5
I don't argue color with anybody except Calvin, Harold, but I would not call that "plum" in any sense.
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Post by wrencher on Feb 9, 2015 23:48:14 GMT -5
Well I guess one worked. In the above photo, this where I started. I got this on E-bay about 7 years ago. All I removed from it were the rubber tires that you see in the pic. I then put the whole car in a plastic Zip lock bag and sprayed it very liberally with Easy Off Oven cleaner.I let it soak overnight an then placed it in a strainer so that I didn't lose anything when I washed it down with soap and water. Some of the pieces needed scrubbing with a toothbrush too. The model originally was assembled with tube glue, and it came apart fairly well. The wheels came off pretty good and I was even able to save the wheel knock offs. The body separated and the seat came right out. The frame rails came off with a little prying with a small screwdriver. Now was the fun part. I was told that the 1921 car was 8" to 12" longer than the 20 car.At .040 thousandths per inch this meant .320" to .480" on the model. I decided on a nice round figure of 7/16" or .437". I cut the body at an angle down through the frame. Then I glued 1/16" strips of styrene inside of each body half, stretching each side the same amount. After gluing the two halfs back together, I cut more 1/16" strips to fill in the voids left around the complete body. I applied some filler and after it cured, I began to sand and re-shape the upper body contours. I used the old B&W photo that I found on the web as a guide.[img src=" ![]() i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr95/kizzie11/DSC01739_1.jpg" src="http://[URL=http://s473.photobucket.com/user/kizzie11/media/DSC01739_1.jpg.html ]  [/URL]" alt=" "] |
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Post by alterrenner on Feb 10, 2015 6:02:28 GMT -5
Looks good! A seamless seam! If I hadn't been told of the splice, I'd have never known it was there!
--Frank
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Post by racerbrown on Feb 10, 2015 7:19:17 GMT -5
looks good!
thanks for sharing.
duane
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Post by INDY22IAM on Feb 10, 2015 8:03:39 GMT -5
That looks superb. Could you imagine running 500 miles 5 hours and 34 minutes around the track in that car. Amazing what they did back than.
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Post by clm1545 on Feb 10, 2015 10:40:43 GMT -5
Looking real good.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 12:20:49 GMT -5
Really really nice work. Thinking about improved wheels? The work you are doing deserves them.
motorbill66
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Post by wrencher on Feb 10, 2015 13:56:00 GMT -5
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Post by wrencher on Feb 10, 2015 14:02:03 GMT -5
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Post by clm1545 on Feb 10, 2015 14:52:14 GMT -5
Looks great. I like the color you chose.
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Post by racerbrown on Feb 10, 2015 17:32:30 GMT -5
turned out great!
thanks for sharing.
duane
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Post by raceparke on Feb 10, 2015 17:36:31 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing this. I love that color.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 17:37:48 GMT -5
Really really nice work. Thinking about improved wheels? The work you are doing deserves them.
motorbill66
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Post by 2lapsdown on Feb 10, 2015 20:09:16 GMT -5
You should be very proud of that. It all looks great.
John
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Post by Calvin on Feb 10, 2015 21:04:31 GMT -5
I think it looks great! I don't think anyone would tell you the color is wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2015 21:30:15 GMT -5
I am impressed! Looks Great!!
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Post by wrencher on Feb 13, 2015 12:44:26 GMT -5
Thanks to everyone for their help and for your kind words on the build. I appreciate it. Wrencher.
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