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Post by mjjracer on Aug 28, 2014 21:08:24 GMT -5
Love this car - the color and the coil springs just jump out. Awesome job!
MJ
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Post by jamesharvey on Aug 29, 2014 10:11:57 GMT -5
Really nice job. It certainly brings back many thoughts of that era. Herk was right there with Parnelli and AJ. Is this the car he crashed at Milwaukee and burned his hands?
Jim
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Post by oldphotos on Aug 29, 2014 11:06:26 GMT -5
Yes this is the car Herk crashed at Milwaukee, One of the reasons he got burnt so bad was that they put a fuel tank up front to keep the nose down, With the large scoop on the nose the car had a problem with the front end lifting.
If you look at some photos of cars in the era you will see that they all some problem with the front end lifting at high speed. The early rear engine cars were really bad. not until they started to learn about aerodynamics was this problem solved.
Oldphotos
Walt
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Post by kip on Aug 29, 2014 16:31:46 GMT -5
OK. I just couldn't leave those gaps. The Herk deserves better. I pulled the hood and took the paint off. I have added a strip across the front of the hood and another strip at the front corners. The AMT hood fit is just putrid. Test fitting makes me think I got it right. Much better. Tomorrow its back to the paint shop. If I can get the flo red to match, I think I have a keeper. If not, its either wait for my 63 Sellers Watson to come back or do another AMT. I don't trust the flo red. Keep my fingers crossed.
Yes Calvin. It came out glowing. To make sure it glowed I gave it a base coat of Tamiya Yellow, then several coats of the flow red. I was happy with it. Now I just have to do it again on the hood. Lucky no decals were involved. Waiting for GWS to do the TOMBSTONE LIFE hood decal and the nose art.
cheers. kip
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Post by kip on Sept 1, 2014 16:54:48 GMT -5
HELP
I need some ideas here. A member pointed out to me that the 1964 Tombstone Life Spl. didn't have a tail cone over the fuel tank. The body ends at the back end of the cockpit and all the roll bar bracing is outside the tail making the tail quite a bit narrower than the AMT body. A look at the Clidinst drawing and oh s**t. He was exactly right. I had earlier noticed that the roll bar and bracing was outside the "body" but I didn't notice it was basically a bare fuel tank and obviously narrower than the rest of the body. Its just a tad under 1/8" difference in width in 1/25 scale. Does not seem like much, but if you are looking for it in photos or on the drawings, it is very noticeable as a separate piece.
I tried sectioning a spare AMT tail--no soap. I measured all my Jorgenson and Sellers roadster tails (thinking maybe I could splice a smaller tail onto the AMT) but all were the same width or wider. Any thoughts or ideas would be most welcome. (Going ahead with the AMT tail is not an option--I would know it isn't right and it would drive me crazy.)
And all this occurred just as my GWS Tombstone Life decals are being printed up. S**t.
kip
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Post by Calvin on Sept 1, 2014 18:26:49 GMT -5
Oh boy......I'll have to think about this one! LOL
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Post by jamesharvey on Sept 2, 2014 14:51:02 GMT -5
Kip,
Does your AMT kit not a fuel tank that goes inside the frame? The body shell goes outside the frame but the fuel tank is inside. I have one with the fuel tank so please let me know.
Jim
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Post by kip on Sept 2, 2014 15:35:58 GMT -5
I have the fuel tank but its shaped nothing like the tail of the #56 and its a good bit smaller. I found that the inside of the AMT tail is very close to the correct width. I am making a mold of the inside of the tail and the rear of the belly pan. I am concerned what the head fairing on top of the tail is going to look like. If it turns out ok. I will try to cast it in resin and mate the two resin pieces.
Thanks for the help. I appreciate it.
kip
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Post by jamesharvey on Sept 2, 2014 18:49:31 GMT -5
Sounds like a plan. You are amazing to figure all of this out. Funny that this would come up since I am using the AMT frame to fit inside the 1950 Kurtis Kraft vacuum body we shared. It is still in the planning stages and I may get after it one of these days. Good luck.
Jim
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Post by Calvin on Sept 2, 2014 20:43:01 GMT -5
This thread really has us on the edge of our seat now! Drama, Thrills, Chills, and Edjmucation.
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Post by Calvin on Sept 13, 2014 0:41:26 GMT -5
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Post by kip on Sept 13, 2014 20:32:01 GMT -5
Hadn't seen that one before. Hey Calvin. I'm not far from you. Left Maryland on Sept. 7. Me and my dog are in Spokane tonight. Headed for Seattle (actually Carnation) tomorrow.
Awards so far:
Worst road: Pennsy Turnpike.
Worst traffic: South of Chicago and in Yellowstone.
Worst weather: Snow storm and heavy fog in South Dakota and eastern Wyoming.
Best scenery: Wyoming or western Montana.
Coolest location: Badlands in South Dakota with the Big Horn mountains in Wyoming a close second
Update on Herk's Tombstone. Before I left I used the inside of the AMT rear to make a mold of the smaller tank Herk used. Used Apoxy; came out pretty good. Added some height to the tank with more Apoxy. Will need some sanding and shaping when I get back home, but I think it will be usable. I like the Apoxy--hard as a rock when cured.
kip
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Post by Calvin on Sept 13, 2014 21:07:43 GMT -5
Hadn't seen that one before. Hey Calvin. I'm not far from you. Left Maryland on Sept. 7. I'm in Spokane tonight. Headed for Seattle (actually Carnation) tomorrow. Hey cool! Let me give you directions all in 4 mins! LOL All I can tell you is the first part of Central Washington is completely boring! Nothing but nothing.....it gets way more interesting as you get closer to Seattle. I want Craig to watch the first part of this as I tell him all the time the Spokane tree line completely stops all in about 1/2 mile and turns to plains. |
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Post by kip on Sept 14, 2014 10:12:56 GMT -5
Thanks Calvin. Wish I could drive it in 4 minutes and 22 seconds. Kinda looks like it could put you to sleep--like Illinois. To the rest of you--sorry to have sent this thread on a tangent. Promise to return it to Herk's 56 Tombstone when I get home. Am anxious to get that fuel tank worked out and use the GWS decals. Gary did a great job.
kip
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Post by kip on Oct 2, 2014 17:18:35 GMT -5
In our last episode, our hero found out that Herk’s 1964 Tombstone Life roadster did not have a cowling over the fuel tank, making the rear end narrower and not as high as the AMT Watson rear end. I made several tries at molding a smaller fuel tank but I wasn’t real happy with any of them. Sooooo, I’m pretty much starting over again; this time I am using the Sellers 1963 Watson as a base. I should be able to reuse some of the suspension. I hate to modify the 63. As usual, Lance’s products are a work of art. Luckily, I have another that is earmarked for the Konstant Hot 14. Here we go again. This is the 63 Watson.    Modifications include removing the headrest, removing the upholstery on the outside of the body, removing the right side hood scoop, adding a nose scoop, filling part of the nose suspension opening, and reshaping the tail fin.  I opened up the side panel.  And I took about 1/10th of an inch off the entire fuel tank—a little less in the middle of the bottom according to the Clidinst drawing.  kip |
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Post by jamesharvey on Oct 2, 2014 17:59:07 GMT -5
This is really something, Kip. I think we are all possessed with perfection. Just amazing on your part!! Good luck and can't wait to see what happens now that you are all rested up.
Jim
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Post by clm1545 on Oct 2, 2014 18:20:17 GMT -5
Great stuff, Kip. That should really be something special.
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Post by Calvin on Oct 2, 2014 19:58:29 GMT -5
LOL! This thread.... is.... something else!  I agree the resin body will be a lot easier on you! once... again.... this.... should.... be..... entertaining! |
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Post by billj on Oct 2, 2014 20:24:34 GMT -5
Wow, after seeing the first attempt, which I loved, the second one should be another beauty. What did you do with that first work of art?
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Post by kip on Oct 3, 2014 7:15:48 GMT -5
The body is sitting in a box. Put a lot of time on it so I don't want to toss it. I took some of the suspension off to use on the new attempt. I may also use the engine (or a part of it) in the new effort if I don't use one of the Etzel engines (am leaning toward that).
kip
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Post by indy on Oct 3, 2014 7:17:49 GMT -5
This is really something, Kip. I think we are all possessed with perfection. Just amazing on your part!! Good luck and can't wait to see what happens now that you are all rested up. Jim Looks like this is going to be a fun ride! Jordan |
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Post by kip on Oct 14, 2014 13:33:01 GMT -5
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Post by indy on Oct 14, 2014 14:17:36 GMT -5
It's really beautiful, Kip!
Jordan
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Post by Calvin on Oct 14, 2014 14:39:08 GMT -5
Oh my goodness! Its eye candy!
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Post by INDY22IAM on Oct 14, 2014 14:59:02 GMT -5
That is looking really nice.
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Post by 2lapsdown on Oct 14, 2014 15:36:09 GMT -5
Really very special. Calvin's right, it's eye candy for sure.
John
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Post by sandysixtysfan on Oct 15, 2014 8:24:29 GMT -5
Kip, this is off the chart good. The finish, deep color and cut outs showing the frame are awesome.
Sandy
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Post by kip on Oct 15, 2014 12:25:41 GMT -5
Jordan, Calvin, Indy22IAM, John, and Sandy. Thank you all very much for the nice comments. They make this second attempt worth it.
kip
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Post by billj on Oct 15, 2014 14:02:30 GMT -5
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Post by kip on Oct 28, 2014 14:50:33 GMT -5
Suspension, cockpit, and decals are pretty much done. Numbers are Indycals. “Tombstone Life” decals by GWS. Others were a gift from Russ. Still have the roll bar and roll bar bracing, the rear “bumper”, exhaust pipe, oil tank, windshield (which always causes me problems--if anyone has any tips, I'm all ears), gas cap, and wheels to go. By the way, I used Krylon Original Chrome on the exhaust and oil tank, and was very, very pleased with the result. Much easier than Alcad.    kip |
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