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Post by elsapito on May 31, 2014 13:46:57 GMT -5
I hope to have hooked you a bit with the enigmatic title... hehe, ypu'll see later on. First a question, I need your help, you all-knowing guys here. What's a trustable -even if rugh- estimate of Lola T90-00 or T91-00 wheelbase? I have my own estimate taken from pics, but I am not as well armed here as in F1 to be sure, and thing might be the 112" I contemplate, but have other sources that would give even 5" more, and that's quite a difference. Anyone can help, please? I hopw you'll like the WIP  James OK, I finally succeeded on google... an old '92 "Popular mechanics" claims 111,5" (damn I got close!!) and besides confirms same figure for both 1991 and 1992... Now it's time to build... |
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Post by ampersand on May 31, 2014 14:29:20 GMT -5
I've looked through some old promotional handouts and press kits and have found the following information on the 1991 Lola: the Dick Simon team and the Hall/VDS team quote 112/115", which I suppose must mean 112" on road courses and 115" on oval tracks. However, the Kraco team states 111" in a press kit from Indy, so it is a bit confusing, I guess. I'll see if I have other sources of information.
Bo
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Post by aowr1911 on May 31, 2014 20:17:45 GMT -5
Good luck on the build. I'm looking forward to seeing the shots of it as it comes along.
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Post by SWT500 on May 31, 2014 21:12:52 GMT -5
The actual wheelbase depended on which kit the team chose to run. For the purposes of your model, I suggest averaging out the stated wheelbases to reach your scale goal. Since there were multiple wheelbase kits on this Lola, that is the only option, IMO. |
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Post by elsapito on Jun 1, 2014 3:07:54 GMT -5
Thanks guys. The main reference for wheelbase is a good side view of a Lola 90. I initially based myself on rims dimensions and aparently the guess is good. Thn the thing is that this helps to confirm all the x-Z coordenates measures I can take from the pic, and they are quite a few. So I'll accept the 112. BTW, the pic is from Luyendyk Indy 90 car. Now a bit of history about the build. I love the 90-92 Lola. I rmember I got hooked by those shapes: the tall fuel tank, the small semi-circular roll hoop, the needle nose, that tucan side shape of the nose, the sidepods with the filp ups and the rounded radiator exits, plus the front view pyramid shaped engine cover area. I've always wanted on, and my attempts to get a BJ bodywork were unsuccessful. Now the thing is that, counting them I'd want some 11 or 12 from '90 to '92. So why not make my own bodywork and cast my copies? That's the reason for the "all purpose" label. In fact I started making this some 20 years ago. I took one of the MONOGRAM (ooops...  ) Lolas and started reshaping it: lower sdepods, cutting all along the front of chassis to make it narrower, eliminate windshield and covering it with putty. It even looked the deal but it was simply a hindsight effort, and now checking measures, some were right, some not. Besides it's a 1/24 and oversized even for that scale. So now the adventure restarts. I'll make it at 1/25 and chopping where I gotta chop, no mercy ;-) No compromises! Besides the idea is a part that includes rear end up to gearbox included. I can cast my wheels so much better not having to depnend on donor kits: a waste of money and kit itself, I feel sorry wtaching the 90% of a kit being lost. I'll figure it out for suspension wishbones: metal rod and maybe cast parts fro the front upper ones. I expect to include pics soon... Thanks for visiting, chhers to all James |
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Post by elsapito on Jun 1, 2014 7:04:33 GMT -5
OK... a WIP thread without pics is like a beef cake with no beef, right? Let's go: I start from this. My 20 year old attempt to sharpen the '88 AMT lola. That's as far as I got... The sharpened chassis...  The lowered sidepods....  And off we go: first I made the floor narrower to match the mandatory width at 1/25... as Sidepods are wider (chassis narrower) in the later car, we'r OK with cutting along and chopping 4mm in width sense...  Andeven if the chassis is sharper than the original, it's too wide yet. So I do what I did again, but keeping the modeling putty with which I made the windshield shape...  Fortunately and unlike what I had thought initially, I'm OK in terms of lengths and heights, so it'll be a matter of stretching the chassis in width axle... That's all! Thanks for viviting, cheers to all. James |
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Post by pje on Jun 1, 2014 10:37:45 GMT -5
James my old friend, it's nice to see you get started on this project. I look forward to your progress.
Paul Erlendson
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Post by elsapito on Jun 1, 2014 11:57:19 GMT -5
Hey, Paul!! Hi there, nice to hear you. I must have told you about this project. This and so many more!!! Well, now comes the time to glue the thing in the correct position. I removed the width needed both in the nose and the roll bar area. So I cement it with cyano...  The trick is placing a temporary floor with the due width, so the thing once set stays at the correct dimensions...  I also put some epoxy putty inside to make it stronger (don't want it to snap once set), a bit difficult to put with the floor attached... some Houdini here. So once set, overnight we may safely remove the floor,,, see now the epoxy.  Then it's time to fill the small gaps with that epoxy too.  And when set, I sanded it...  Not quite sure if I have the correcy profile. I think it should accentuate the tucan curve, so the area just in front of the windshield edge should be lower and flatter?  If anything I have room to sand this area a bit flatter later. Now it's time to prime the thing and it'll help to evaluate shapes, too...  And that's after drawing the winshield area...  That's all for the moment, I hope you enjoy! Thanks for coming, cheers to all James |
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Post by indy on Jun 2, 2014 9:08:12 GMT -5
Liking the start on this one, James. Looks to be a fun journey ahead on this one. Is this a Monogram kit or an AMT?
Jordan
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Post by elsapito on Jun 2, 2014 11:12:52 GMT -5
Thanks, Jordan! Fun is the word, no doubt. And besides fullfiling a really old wish. YES you are right: after all that comment opn the AMT's and Monograms, I ended up writing it wrong, I just corrected it now, yes it's a MONOGRAM, no doubt. Good thing about these shapes is that sometimes you can chop here and there and end up with the desired thing. I am reasonably happy with how the "jibarized" (shrunk) parts ave resulted. I'll edit the post with more updates in some minutes. J Here we go: AFter chopping the floor to the required sidepod length -not too different to the MONOGRAM model, I even keep the curved zone of the corners- now I sit the chassis on the floor, to check the heights. Initially I referred those to the center bottom -floor of the chassis- but given that I had yet to add a plank -on the monogram, chassis bottom is flush with sidepod outer edges, instead of protri¡uding some 2mm as it should- and that this reference is a bit darker on pics, I work on the sidepod bottom base, which is after all what visually will be noticeable with the model built. Mind you, I'll respect the chassis centerline protruding, but that'll come later. So I mark the line where I'll cut the chassis:  And.... cut!!!  The fit is good and the heughts are correct now:  And now comes a thing: the nose tip bottom protruded beneath... let's say it sat too low. First I thought I'd play with the chassis inclination, but then I see I depend on the heights of cockpit and fuel tank. Fortnately my nose cone was way too long. So when cutting it, it loses stuff underneath, so the tip is where it should without having to change the slope of nose profile  There's still the plank missing: 2mm of plastic. That will cover the height gap you see and a bit more, just enough to accurately depict the small step that was beneath the Indycars nose. Actually the nose bottom rides a bit higher than, say, the syspensions area's or cockpit's bottom. That's all for now, it's time to check if everything's allright and then glue strongly the chassis on the floor, so we have the main structure well defined. Thanks for coming, cheers to all! James |
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Post by aowr1911 on Jun 11, 2014 17:45:38 GMT -5
This looks VERY promising James. Keep going my friend. Very good work.
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Post by elsapito on Feb 29, 2016 7:07:48 GMT -5
Another one that is surely going to re-start.... cheers mates!
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Post by indy on Feb 29, 2016 9:24:52 GMT -5
Glad to see you restarting your IndyCar builds. Looking forward to your updates.
Jordan
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Post by elsapito on Feb 29, 2016 11:28:15 GMT -5
Thanks J!  I'also have to repost pics. And too, commnts on others' threads... ;-) |
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) Lolas and started reshaping it: lower sdepods, cutting all along the front of chassis to make it narrower, eliminate windshield and covering it with putty. It even looked the deal but it was simply a hindsight effort, and now checking measures, some were right, some not. Besides it's a 1/24 and oversized even for that scale.
I'also have to repost pics. And too, commnts on others' threads... ;-)