rickh
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Post by rickh on May 12, 2014 0:12:17 GMT -5
What do folks use for the McLaren papaya color of the late 1960s/ early 70s on F1 and CanAm cars? I am using Tamiya TS56 which looked great on the can, but is starting to look too orange-y in real life.
Other suggestions?
Thanks,
Rick
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Post by pje on May 12, 2014 0:39:34 GMT -5
The exact match is Zero Paints Can-Am Orange.
Paul Erlendson
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Post by eagle36 on May 12, 2014 5:57:43 GMT -5
The exact match is Zero Paints Can-Am Orange. Paul Erlendson Alternatively, I got these formulas off of the web some time age: Orange: X6 + X8 (50/50). Blue: X3. 2 parts X-6 orange to one part X-8 Lemon Yellow Search for "McLaren orange" on The Nostalgia Forum and you'll find out that theree is no single answer to what the color was, it changed over time, and/or photographed differently, so don't kill yourself trying to get the "right" answer, becasue there is no one "correct" color. |
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Post by Calvin on May 12, 2014 8:37:19 GMT -5
Michael P. and I still think Tamiya TS56 is correct for Mclaren Orange.....Most old pics do not show that orange correctly at all.
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Post by indycals on May 12, 2014 14:19:59 GMT -5
Yep. I stand by TS56. I believe it was made for the Tamiya McLaren M8A
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rickh
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Post by rickh on May 12, 2014 22:38:38 GMT -5
Wow. Well, if you guys say so... Belay my last about too orange-y.
And, for what it's worth, Don Jensen, another USRRC/Can Am driver, lives across the street. He has been telling me that the McLarens weren't any special color; they were just Farm Implement Orange. Being a city boy, that color description doesn't give me any more of a mental picture than "papaya" does. I guess I will just sit back and enjoy the vividness of TS56.
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Post by mjjracer on May 12, 2014 23:04:11 GMT -5
City boy here too. When I first saw them in 1967 that orange was pretty shocking to me. And even then there were disputes among slot car racers over the right color.
MJ
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Post by pg265 on Dec 18, 2014 14:26:51 GMT -5
Hi,
ZP Mc LAren orange is nice!
You can also have McLaren Orange from ScaleFinishes.
Pascal
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2015 11:16:28 GMT -5
I bought McLaren Orange fron Scale Finishes, available in US at about 10$ for 2 ounces...
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Post by indycals on May 13, 2015 15:00:47 GMT -5
I believe Lance is also selling a McLaren orange paint.
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Post by eagle36 on May 14, 2015 14:38:54 GMT -5
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Post by alterrenner on May 15, 2015 8:24:09 GMT -5
Just read the autosport colour debate--there's five minutes that I'll never get back!
It was interesting to watch the debate turn into name calling, then get back on track! Perhaps we should form a protocol for our own color debates:
1) a statement of what you believe is correct.
2) submissions of differing opinions.
3) name calling.
4) notations on incorrect spellings.
5) name calling.
6) a call for civilized discussion.
7) a few civilized posts.
8) a few apologies.
9) another statement of what you believe is correct.
10) name calling with an explanation of why the poster used that name.
11) a summary.
--Frank
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Post by alterrenner on May 15, 2015 8:29:51 GMT -5
Of course, the above post applies if you think our debates should adhere to what seem to be a universal standard used by so many other forums!
My own opinion is that we should just be the rebels that we are (that's not name calling)!
OK, I'm open for debate...
--Frank
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Post by eagle36 on May 15, 2015 12:35:44 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 23:18:22 GMT -5
Lance has the some of the original body work off a 1970 McLaren which he took to an upscale auto paint shop and they used some sort of spectrum analysis scope on the ORIGINAL bodywork.
He had a batch mixed up and is now selling it. It is for airbrush only.
He also has Coyote Red. This was mixed the same way. I believe John Edwards was the owner of the body parts, and he kindly loaned them to Lance for this exact purpose.
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Post by alterrenner on May 16, 2015 6:16:09 GMT -5
Does that mean the color debate is over? Just like that? No name calling? Only one page?
Damn computerized spectrum analysis scope, anyway! What can that scope possibly know?
--Frank
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Post by Patrick on May 18, 2015 1:00:18 GMT -5
The exact match is Zero Paints Can-Am Orange. Paul Erlendson The McLaren guys said there was no definitive, exact McLaren orange. (I used a grey primer then TS56 and it toned down the "orange" a bit.)! Patrick |
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Post by indycals on May 18, 2015 1:29:29 GMT -5
The exact match is Zero Paints Can-Am Orange. Paul Erlendson The McLaren guys said there was no definitive, exact McLaren orange. (I used a grey primer then TS56 and it toned down the "orange" a bit.)! Patrick I think that was common back in the day. I was reading about the Gold Leaf Lotuses and they said the shade of red was whatever red the pulled off the shelf the day they painted. If you can match to a paint sample from the era, that is great as you know you will match 'a' shade that was used  |
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Post by pg265 on Mar 1, 2016 15:18:24 GMT -5
Hi, As I'm currently building a McLaren M7A from 1968, I must say that the Gravity Colors McLaren orange will give your model a real Papaya look! Pascal |
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Post by vintagerpm on Mar 1, 2016 17:44:08 GMT -5
I used Tamiya TS-56 Brilliant Orange on all my Can-Am McLarens. It is a good match for my period photos. Originally created for use on the Repco Honda GP bike models. The Gravity, Scale Finishes, & Zero Paints all look good on-line. Maybe the Gravity is closest (IMO). But then, how exact are the photos of those bottles and how good is the color on my monitor? Seems like they are all good to me. Basically, the orange needs to look orange in some lighting conditions and yellow in others.
Mike
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 20:27:49 GMT -5
Back then, paint was not as modern as it is today. Most commercial fleet and also racing team bought commercial paint so the color could have been a little different form supplier to supplier. McLaren was not a large corporation so they would not have paint factories devellop special paint for them...I know fron seing a canam car in St Jovite QC that is was an orange in which you would add a little white and and some black to dirty it a little. Todays cars would have a bit of pearl to brighten it...
I am a sign painter and photographer and this is not words from God. Only my opinion. Scale finishes looks right to me
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Post by Joel on Mar 8, 2016 17:58:17 GMT -5
I've always felt from seeing those Cam-Am McLarens back in the late 60s through the mid 70s that the color did vary some. We just never gave it much of a thought. I did buy a bottle of Zero's McLaren Orange as I have the Accurate Miniatures' M8B seating on a shelf waiting to be built.
Joel
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