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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 11:27:35 GMT -5
Hi guys. I wanto to detail the Ford Dohc engine that comes in the Olsonite Eagle kit, and want to know how is the wiring/spark plugs and fuel lines in this engine. Any help is welcome. Cheers. Alex
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Post by smbrm on Oct 31, 2013 12:56:31 GMT -5
Hi guys. I wanto to detail the Ford Dohc engine that comes in the Olsonite Eagle kit, and want to know how is the wiring/spark plugs and fuel lines in this engine. Any help is welcome. Cheers. Alex Hi Alex and fellow Indycar Modeller's. This would be an interesting project for a Speed Details Engine Detailing Profile. As author/illustrator, I have always wondered how interested Indycar modeller's are in this kind of detail? While Indycar modeller's are an enthusiastic group, there tend to be fewer of us, limited detailable kits, and more curbside kits. It takes quite a bit of time to research and illustrate these kind of details to develop and translate comprehensive, specific, and accurate references that do justice to the subject. So, having some idea of the interest level would be an appropriate starting point for both this and other Indy engine detailing? Opinions appreciated? Stephen members.shaw.ca/millersbrm/publications2.html
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Post by eagle36 on Oct 31, 2013 19:25:39 GMT -5
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Post by smbrm on Nov 1, 2013 20:06:03 GMT -5
This is indeed an excellent site on the topic of the quad cam, perhaps the best on the web. It does provide some very "minimal" insight to the question.
Just wondering Alex: What level of detail are you striving to achieve?
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Post by billj on Nov 2, 2013 12:48:39 GMT -5
I loved the roadsters and beginning rear engine car period. At the age I was, it was truly interesting to learn about the physics and mechanicals involved. The drivers were hard, fearless men and the mechanics were miracle workers.
Now, as far as detailing the Ford DOHC engine goes, I see it as difficult to get "right" in many areas. While the engine evolved over it's life, there were some variations in routing of fuel lines and plug wires. Linkage was a variable also, although the basic layout was pretty standard.
The fact is, unfortunately there is not much subject matter in scale to work with. The 68 Gurney Eagle kit was as I recall, the best representation of the engine, in a race car. The IMC Lotus 38 was a lump of plastic, some kits, I can't remember which ones, had a display DOHC engine included, none too accurate.
I know there have been some conversion parts available from time to time to build cars like Bobby Marshman's Lotus and some others. I missed all those so I cannot say what level of engine was to be used, or how well it could be detailed.
So, although I really liked the Ford powered cars, there is not much, that I am aware of, that can be super detailed. Please correct me if I am wrong. I'd love to see good information on detailing/line routing/linkages and such, I am just not that sure where it can be utilized, other than the Hulme 68 Eagle. I truly wish there were more kits from that era of Indy. I have some of the excellent resin kits, they don't beg for much detailing on the engines though.
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Post by Chris on Nov 2, 2013 17:31:17 GMT -5
Alex did you get the info you needed? if noy I have a bunch and I think I still have the WIP from the Ford GT40 D.O.H.C. I did LMK Chris
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Post by smbrm on Nov 4, 2013 22:31:53 GMT -5
I agree that the MPC Eagle had the best representation of the quad cam. Besides the MPC Eagle, the quad cam appears in a variety of different resin kits or is appropriate to a variety of transkits. I also agree that there are several variants, throughout its evolution, however in terms of system differences, probably not that many that a useful summary could not be realized.
Recently there have been resin casters exploring heretofore unrealized engine kits and new vehicles kits which would use the the quad cam or it's variants.
If indycar modellers are happy without super detailing then there may not be much interest in summarizing the details into a comprehensive profile regardless of how doable it might be?
It's kind of similar to when a resin castor solicits interest in a new kit and needs a minimum level of interest to make it worthwhile.
Lots of stuff is nice to have, but if there isn't enough interest there isn't really a worthwhile value proposition.
So far we appear to only have two potentially interested users?
BTW, I was only asking in the interest of adding value.
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