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Post by Patrick on Dec 2, 2014 17:33:44 GMT -5
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Post by 1961redlegs on Dec 2, 2014 18:51:53 GMT -5
This is an incredible build, you're really doing the car justice.
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Post by sandysixtysfan on Dec 2, 2014 23:10:49 GMT -5
Tim, this is too cool. The story about the fuel is insane!
Sandy
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Post by alwaysindy on Feb 26, 2015 11:53:23 GMT -5
Our story continues with the driver. Bernd Rosemeyer was a champion motorcycle racer for Horch. He went directly to the AU team with no experience driving a F1 car. This probably helped him, because he had no preconcieved notions how the car should handle. He comes onboard in 1935 and in 1936, wins almost every race he enters. both GP and Hillclimb. This is AU's only time that they win "the manufacturer's championship" which really doesn't exist at that time. The rules were VERY different back then, including GP's that did not count, a seperate Hillclimb championship,a "European Champion" etc. Let's just say he kicked everybody's azz in '36... Results fall off in 1937, but he is still very competative at the track...  I have to add his bottom hand on the wheel and the front suspension isn't finished yet...  He marries the "German Amelia Earhart" Elie Beinhorn. She teaches him to fly. He shows up at GP's in a plane, with wife in tow, years before helicopters regularly take F1 drivers to and from the track. They are THE POWER COUPLE in Europe... Here is the controversial part...he is "recruited" into the SS and given a commision...depending on your source, he is either a Nazi supporter or a forced member...since he, through AU,and his wife both got help from the government, their public statements tended to support the Nazis...privately, both seemed to think the Nazis were silly...my personal belief is that he just wanted to race, and all other considerations mattered little... I wish I could post a video of him, because several are on the net...he was in a friendly competition with Carracciola for certain speed records...this lead to streamlining the GP cars...they were run on the Autobahns to showcase the new roads...first Rosemeyer, then Caracciola, kept upping the record...then, AU upped the bodywork between the fenders, put on a chin spoiler,ran the bodywork to the ground, and opened up the space between the rear wheels...completely unknown to them, they had discovered "ground effects", 30 years before Colin Chapman(WTF?)...with no testing of the new shape, and a high wind blowing, the car (at 270 mph!!!) was hit by a side wind, swerved to the median, tried to correct, and then hit the bridge and began tumbling...Rosemeyer was thrown clear and died...Caracciola still holds the fastest top speed on a public road, right at 270MPH (400KPH)...NO ONE has attempted to beat this record, even with modern tires, etc. The SS threw a huge funeral to honor the national hero, but Elie was very upset by all the Nazi pagentry... In conclusion, Bernd Rosemeyer is a mystery. He was a firece, fast racer and very respected by his contemporaries.He could make a non-competative car run up front by sheer will, was fast in the rain, and won on every kind of circuit. If you are so inclined, please google Rosemeyer, his crash, or Auto Union. There are hundreds of sites about all of these and a huge amount of photos if you are interested...now, I'm back to the front suspension! Comments welcome... Tim |
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Post by Patrick on Feb 26, 2015 12:37:52 GMT -5
Tim,
von Brautisch was a Mercedes driver and was a true Nazi. He also was a general in the Wehrmacht on the Eastern Front as I recall. Interesting times in Germany and one with shame with regret. The two teams fed off each other vying for attention.
Patrick
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Post by martin on Feb 27, 2015 5:30:22 GMT -5
Patrick,
Manfred von Brauchitsch (1905-2003) the racing driver, and Walther von Brauchitsch (1881-1948) the German field marshal, were two different members of the same Silesian aristocratic family.
Martin
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Post by jamesharvey on Feb 28, 2015 9:26:13 GMT -5
Another card in this deck was the English driver Dick Seaman (sp?) as I recall who was very quick and impressive in these cars. Thanks for all of this research and information. I found both Auto Union's and Mercedes participation in the Vanderbilt Cups races really interesting as well. Your comments are wonderful to follow.
Jim
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 14:51:39 GMT -5
Looks very nice. I do have the FPPM Pinto kit but have not started it yet. It is no wonder the Nazi's won everything in GP in the late 1930's, the engines in these cars had atleast twice the displacement as the cars they raced against.
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Post by harveythedog2 on Mar 2, 2015 19:11:33 GMT -5
Great looking build and great history lesson. Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 13:05:52 GMT -5
Early racing days were indeed primitive and race teams paid high prices for the thrills. I come by here infrequently, so maybe it's been mentioned that there are some pricey Auto Union 1/25 (?) scale small production kits that are very well detailed too. As to handling, they were beasts with a lot of power for the tires of the era and cornering technology was trial and error. Thanx for a very interesting subject!
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Post by alwaysindy on Mar 19, 2015 14:51:35 GMT -5
Hope this works...at the 2 minute mark, the ground effect car is shown...he made a very ill handling car look smooth...
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Post by alwaysindy on Mar 19, 2015 15:02:08 GMT -5
FINALLY up on 4 wheels...  I love this view...the hood goes on forever...  Comin' at you...  Overhead view...  Notice the large size versus the Bugatti...this beasty had a 114.5" wheelbase...about the same as a Petty Charger...  Comments, suggestions, etc. are welcome... Tim |
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Post by sandysixtysfan on Mar 19, 2015 15:33:04 GMT -5
Comment? It Looks Great! Really good work here.
Sandy
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Post by clm1545 on Mar 19, 2015 19:21:47 GMT -5
Looking just super, Tim
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Post by racerbrown on Mar 19, 2015 21:52:57 GMT -5
great job tim!
thanks for sharing both the model and the history lesson as well.
duane
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Post by rusty on Mar 19, 2015 23:30:35 GMT -5
Great job, I love it! On a side note, it will be interesting to see if the rumors are true about Audi buying torro rosso. I hope so.... It'd be nice to see the four rings back on an f1 car.
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Post by jamesharvey on Mar 20, 2015 7:35:49 GMT -5
Be proud to put this on your shelf. It is special. Really well done.
Jim
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Post by indy on Mar 20, 2015 8:26:13 GMT -5
Sitting pretty! You can just kind of see him feeding it throttle to kick around the rear to pick up a little speed mid-turn off.
Jordan
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Post by Patrick on Mar 20, 2015 15:52:49 GMT -5
I'm so surprised at the size comparison with the Bug...not as huge as I thought! Hope I can get the front suspension figured out for my M-B W153.
Patrick
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Post by alwaysindy on May 18, 2015 12:48:09 GMT -5
FINALLY! the flag drops...  This one just kept demanding more detail...  I was concerned about the wheels...Profil24 knockoffs look just right...  In Patrick's words..."the fiddly suspensions bits"...this was my toughest so far...  Rear suspension detail...  Overhead view...  As the rear breaks away, Rosemeyer catches it and slams down the straight...  Shout out to GWS decals! Thanks Gary! Shout out to Profil24 for ko's Shout out to Lance for selling me this kit... It was tough, but fun! Comments, questions, etc. welcomed Tim |
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Post by indy on May 18, 2015 13:40:38 GMT -5
This one has been enjoyable to watch come together to a great result.
Jordan
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Post by clm1545 on May 18, 2015 14:15:35 GMT -5
Just super, Tim. I have seen this build in person, and the photos don't do it justice.
See you Friday in Indy, Tim..
You are right, those knockoffs are fantastic.
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Post by sandysixtysfan on May 18, 2015 14:27:43 GMT -5
Outstanding. Great build of a very cool car.
Sandy
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Post by racerbrown on May 18, 2015 17:12:43 GMT -5
great job tim.
thanks for sharing.
duane
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Post by Patrick on May 19, 2015 15:27:59 GMT -5
Hey! I see that Hawk M-B W159 sitting there on your work bench. Could help me in some measurements if you havbe the front suspension? PM me if you can.
Patrick
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Post by Calvin on May 20, 2015 8:57:03 GMT -5
Completely absolutely outstanding! Its one of those builds that motivates others!
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Post by 1961redlegs on May 20, 2015 21:03:21 GMT -5
Oh my, that is masterful sir. It looks like it's about to take on the cream of Mercedes and Alfa Romeo.
This is incredible!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 19:50:41 GMT -5
I have read extensively, though some time ago, about these beasts. In particular that these cars were so brutal to drive that they had to tape the hands and fingers of the drivers just to make it through practice! Also, when these cars were hill climbed (hillclumb?), they used dual tires/wheels on the rear. They're truly cool, but frankly they were lousy racecars. Where can I get one? !
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Post by beardogracing on Feb 24, 2016 20:10:51 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 20:16:55 GMT -5
Yep. I love expensive kits. The wife is willing (always! Crap, I'm lucky!), but the wallet's not; at least not yet...
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