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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2011 11:14:20 GMT -5
I just started the old MPC Olsonite Eagle kit and am trying to confirm some of the proper colors for the car. Here's what I have so far. I based it on some pics I found and also previous threads here from other members that have build this kit. Any corrections are appreciated.
aluminum - interior, engine heads, manifold
gunmetal steel - engine block & trans case
burnt aluminum - headers & tailpipes
black - seat, dash, steering wheel, gauge faces
filter - orange (Fram)
wheels - dark steel color with silver rims
tires - white letters (Goodyear) with blue stripes
clear blue tint - windscreen
Thanks, Chuck
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2011 13:46:14 GMT -5
Dan the man!
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Post by raceparke on Nov 17, 2011 14:28:00 GMT -5
And please, what would the best rattlecan blue be for the body? And would this be the same color to use on the 69 version Lance is issuing? Thanks in advance Dan
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Post by lance on Nov 17, 2011 15:00:50 GMT -5
The color I used on my first build of this car was a custom mix applied with an airbrush. The actual color was "Mustang Midnight Blue", I plan to get a quart mixed soon for my future Eagle projects. Lance
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Post by stuboyle on Nov 17, 2011 17:19:57 GMT -5
Is it a metallic color? I think my 67 Gurney-Weslake has a metallic finish to it.
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Post by indycals on Nov 17, 2011 18:29:10 GMT -5
TS55 works pretty well. Not metallic, but the shade/hue is about as good as you'll find IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2011 18:49:55 GMT -5
I plan on using Tamiya TS64 Dark Metallic Blue. This seems the closest to my eye of ready mixed paint. Plus the fact that it goes on well.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2011 0:44:28 GMT -5
Dan late 1960 wear Navy Sea Blue........not Metallic Blue at all!
Best to you!
Russ
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Post by macsparty on Nov 18, 2011 9:14:45 GMT -5
Pretty sure I used a blend of Testors Blue Angel Blue, Dark Sea Blue and Gloss Blue to get this. Probably not the easiest approach, but with some experimentation it works to my eye.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2011 9:24:58 GMT -5
I think Lance may be correct. Here is a close up of Ford "Midnight Blue" on a 66 Mustang. Thai is a very dark blue, but under certain angles you can see the metallic in the paint. This is the same car and from this angle it appears to be just a dark blue. Here is a pic of the 1970 Gurney Olsonite Eagle at the Riverside International Automotive Museum. I know that this is a different year but it appears to be the same color. You all decide. Chuck
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Post by clm1545 on Nov 18, 2011 10:45:29 GMT -5
Most of us build for our own enjoyment, so paint the car whatever looks right to you. Russ knows Dan and has seen the 68 car at AAR many times, so I will take his opinion. I don't have good access to Tamaya paint, so I usually use Duplicolor paint and I find that metallic auto paint looks "out of scale" on models. the metallic is way too big. This is my opinion only, use what you want. Take Care Craig
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Post by stuboyle on Nov 18, 2011 11:16:58 GMT -5
I agree with you Craig that a lot of the metallic paints look way out of scale for models.
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Post by lance on Nov 18, 2011 11:54:04 GMT -5
My source for "mustang midnight blue", was from Bob Clidinst. I have searched ford color codes but have found nothing definitive. From what I can tell, midnight blue can be either metallic or non-metallic. I personally have been of the opinion that the blue Gurney used on the 68eagle and those of late 60's were non-metallic. John Zimmermann's book on Gurney's cars has several quality color photo's showing a non-metallic blue but most assuredly, I am sure that this is a topic Russ has discussed with Dan himself. Lance
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Post by Chris on Nov 18, 2011 12:00:27 GMT -5
This color must be the biggest mystery ever.. I have been in , and around the cars so many times and it always looks different. The 69 body I painted in House of Kolor Cobalt blue over Omoron Silver base, many many coats of Cobalt blue and really as a test to see if I could get it close The actual paint is metalic or at least a (semi-transparent)blue over a silver base. They were all painted the same, even the Can Am cars. I had a 68 Eagle nose in my bedroom for years. I also used a Yamaha dark metalic blue that looked great, finer metalic on motorcycles I guess, Tamiya metalics are quite fine and I havent found one out of scale yet. Again Paint it what You want unless you are going to take it and compare it against the real car at least You will be Happy!!! Chris
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Post by macsparty on Nov 18, 2011 13:17:35 GMT -5
I definitely like the sheen on yours better than mine, Chris. Mine was done back when my "paint booth" was a cardboard box in the screen room, and done in winter in Michigan. Some of the sections I stripped and redid, but it never really did get much luster to it. Modeler error for the most part!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2011 13:24:52 GMT -5
Most of us build for our own enjoyment, so paint the car whatever looks right to you. Russ knows Dan and has seen the 68 car at AAR many times, so I will take his opinion. I don't have good access to Tamaya paint, so I usually use Duplicolor paint and I find that metallic auto paint looks "out of scale" on models. the metallic is way too big. This is my opinion only, use what you want. Take Care Craig I also build for my enjoyment, but I try to build my models as accurately as possible for my abilities. I think it just a matter of how each person sees colors differently and in the end maybe close enough is just fine. I usually use paints designed for modelers as I think that the pigments are ground finer to help avoid hiding details. Plus the fact that the Tamiya paint sprays on thin to begin with. I couldn't agree with you more that using regular auto repair paint that the metallic particles are going to be way over scale to look proper. When I started this thread, I was looking for input on the proper color of the parts of the car that you don't normally see in pics. Thanks Craig, Chuck
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Post by Chris on Nov 18, 2011 13:57:01 GMT -5
One afternoon at AAR I asked (someone) what color they painted the cars and was promptly told " Cadillac Firemist Blue" !!! I have have checked the color and it looks right but for some reason I could never bring myself to paint an Eagle with Cadillac paint.....Again the metallic seemed too big for a model car.. Chris
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Post by raceparke on Nov 18, 2011 17:41:11 GMT -5
Thanks all- a really useful discussion Dan
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2011 8:00:01 GMT -5
I still looking to find the color of the following:
radiator storage tank behind the radiator
disc brake calipers
Thanks! Chuck
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Post by SWT500 on Nov 22, 2011 8:39:06 GMT -5
Why doesn't someone just call them and ask what the color is? Kathy Weida, who runs things there, should certainly be able to help you.
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Post by pje on Nov 22, 2011 10:32:21 GMT -5
Why doesn't someone just call them and ask what the color is? Kathy Weida, who runs things there, should certainly be able to help you. I did. A few years ago. I'll post the info as soon as I can find it. Paul Erlendson
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Post by pje on Nov 22, 2011 13:03:18 GMT -5
Why doesn't someone just call them and ask what the color is? Kathy Weida, who runs things there, should certainly be able to help you. I asked the question directly to AAR a few years ago. This is what Kathy Weida told me that they used for a restoration. Glasurit Brand Paints - Metallic dark blue base # 5 4 - 6 M - 5 0 3 5 and Clear Coat 9 2 3 - 5 5 White (Roundels) 5 4 - M 2 5 White Pearl (body) 6 9 - M - 0 1 0 with the same clear coat 9 2 3 - 5 5 From my “Scale Models” article from years ago on mixing racing colors (with Tamiya paint), they suggest for A.A.R. Blue as: 4 parts aluminum + 3 parts royal blue, and then clear coat. Paul Erlendson
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2011 9:43:21 GMT -5
Thanks Paul for the updated info.
Chuck
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