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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2011 21:45:57 GMT -5
Okay, it took some time but I finally decided upon which Indycar to do first to get my skills up to snuff. I am going to do Emmo Fittipaldi's 1988 March. Reason being is I managed to acquire a second Al Jr. March 88C last night for cheap (that, plus a Valvoline sheet scored on eBay means I have three Al Jr. sheets for an AMT Lola I want to do as Al's 1989 car as somebody mentioned one practically needs three mono sheets to do something decent from them).  So, I figure I will do this one as a close to OOB build, just focusing on what details I can do with paint (I may add wires to the engine, we shall see). I've got the skills, software and a printer to whip up a decent sheet for the markings (I've done decal sheets before), although I am still gathering references. Does anybody know what font is used for the "M@r1b0r0" text? I can do those logos easily, but I see Patrick racing had a small "Patrick Racing" signage on the engine cover for 1988 (and I believe for 88 as well) and it looks like the same font. I don't really have a good image of it full on to do a decal from and having a font loaded would really help. Secondly, somebody mentioned Emmo also drove a Lola that year, apparently for road course races (Chaparral 2K I think in his Hanna Autowash build, which started life as an Emmo Lola). Was the March just for ovals and the Lola for road courses or did Patrick Racing switch them around a bit depending on the race? |
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Post by indy on Jun 16, 2011 22:41:19 GMT -5
What software do you use for making decals? It matters where to point you on some of this stuff.
Jordan
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Post by indycals on Jun 16, 2011 23:31:34 GMT -5
They probably switched to the Lola mid season since the 88C was a piece of junk.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2011 7:12:05 GMT -5
Well, at least it was good enough to get second at Indy. It must have been the Lola that scored the wins late season. I guess I'll go with speedway wings then unless I can find a photo of the car with RC wings on it.
As for my software/hardware, I have a PC based system running Photoshop for the scanning and cleanup of pixel files and I construct my vector stuff in Macromedia Freehand (not as powerful as Illustrator, but I prefer its interface and it gets the job done without being a memory hog on my older system). Freehand can also import and export older Illustrator files. As for printing, I have an ALPS-1000 with the white spotcolor cartridges in addition to the normal CMYK stuff. I've done decals before for aircraft models, spacecraft models and even some minor logos for race cars.
Now I am not talking about going into a side business printing decals here as I've done that before and it takes a lot of effort to do that and I don't have the supply capacity or the time to commit to it that I used to. I just reserve the ALPS for my own personal stuff these days and maybe some small print runs. Besides, Mike pretty well has everything covered for the other marking schemes I am interested in and his printer has a higher print resolution than mine does (and he does good work).
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Post by indy on Jun 17, 2011 11:55:23 GMT -5
If someone has the Autocourse CART 20th Anniversary edition, it has what chassis and engine information. Mine is in storage an hour away right now so I can't help on this....
Jordan
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Post by SteveK51 on Jun 17, 2011 13:15:02 GMT -5
From memory having watched the telecasts recently, Emmo and co. debated running the Lola at Indy but decided there wasn't sufficient time to prepare it. But, I think they ran the Lola everywhere they could thereafter, including Milwaukee the next week.
A quick check of Mark Windecker's site shows that the Lola was the car of choice at both Cleveland and Michigan in 1988.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2011 15:07:03 GMT -5
Okay, Indy 500 speedway version it is. Thanks!  I started some preliminary work tonight. I am debating whether or not I'll put the driver in or rob a seat from an AMT kit to stick in instead. I managed to find some good photos of Emmo's 88C with the engine cover off, so I can use those as a guide for my work back there (AMT's engines seem to be a little better in the headers and wastegate department). I am glad I am doing the Monogram kit though as I decided to compare the nose with the AMT March 88C and man, the AMT nose looks positively dumpy by comparison. The Monogram kit seems to have gotten that shape more correct. AMT Lolas tend to be better than Monogram ones, but I think the March 88 round (for what it is worth) goes to Monogram thus far. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2011 1:17:46 GMT -5
Okay, I have a question about M@r1b0r0 red as used on the 1988 and 89 Indycars. Were they using a flourescent or dayglo red then, or was it closer to just a standard gloss red? In the pictures I've seen of the 1988 March with the engine cover off, the color looks closer to a standard red or maybe a slight orange red. But I think the picture was shot in overcast conditions, meaning if it was a dayglo, the color likely wouldn't pop. I am kind of leaning towards flourescent red, but I wanted to make sure as the pictures don't quite give me the whole story. Anyone have any ideas?
Secondly, if I am going to spray this color, what should I use (either spraycan or airbrush).
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Post by mbpp on Jun 20, 2011 7:20:59 GMT -5
Okay, I have a question about M@r1b0r0 red as used on the 1988 and 89 Indycars. Were they using a flourescent or dayglo red then, or was it closer to just a standard gloss red? In the pictures I've seen of the 1988 March with the engine cover off, the color looks closer to a standard red or maybe a slight orange red. But I think the picture was shot in overcast conditions, meaning if it was a dayglo, the color likely wouldn't pop. I am kind of leaning towards flourescent red, but I wanted to make sure as the pictures don't quite give me the whole story. Anyone have any ideas? Secondly, if I am going to spray this color, what should I use (either spraycan or airbrush). All of the M@r1b0r0 Indy cars used Fluorescent Red Tamiya #TS36 would be your best bet |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2011 22:01:57 GMT -5
Well, I've been making progress (no photos yet, they will come soon though). I must say, this Monogram March is fitting together pretty well all things considered. I did some test fit work on the engine cover and the sidepods last night and everything slotted in rather nicely. I'm not sure what the seam problem was that somebody else mentioned in another posting about the March's nose seams, but one thing I am going to do is cut the front speedway wing in half and install it after I take care of the nose seams to keep it from getting in the way during the build. There are a couple other parts I'll need to cut from one section and glue to others (such as the part of the engine cover that sits under the roll bar hoop). My main debate right now though is I haven't fully decided if I will do this kit strictly OOB or if I'll add some minor tweaks. I am leaning towards OOB, even if it means I'll need to add the driver figure and try to take a stab at Emmo's helmet paintjob. The other alternative I can think of is to do some minor tweaks and put in an AMT drivers seat to the open cockpit and add some additional headers to the back of the Chevy motor and turbo system. I like seeing drivers in the car though as it gives a good sense of action. Of course, I like pilot figures in my planes too. BTW Mike, I took a moment to check out your race car modeler blog. Nice work on that Visteon Reynard and the Target stocker man (and the Penske IRL ride as well). |
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