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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2011 8:01:33 GMT -5
Just joined the forum and I'm considering which kit from the ancient stash I should attempt. I've got a Kogure 1/12 Lotus 33 that I've been lugging around for ages and, although it looks pretty toylike, it seems like it could be built up into a pretty impressive replica with a lot of work. Has anyone ever seen one built up and does anyone know of any good 3 views of the 33? I've got plenty of photos, but no plans.
Don
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Post by harveythedog2 on Apr 18, 2011 9:15:07 GMT -5
Hi Don, I have never seen the Kogure Lotus 33 but years ago I built the 1/12th Bandai Lotus 33. The kit was a nightmare and the wheels were freaky over sized. I ended up contacting ABC in Italy and bought a set of tires and wheels for their Ferrari 312 kit. I cut the Lotus wheel inserts out and installed them in the ABC wheels. While not perfect, it really helped the stance of the Bandai. Stu   |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2011 10:19:16 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2011 10:28:18 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2011 10:34:10 GMT -5
BTW, luverly 33, Stu. Great job on a dog of a kit! I believe the Kogure and Bandai are the same molds. Mine was the UPC version.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2011 12:58:20 GMT -5
Hi Don, I have never seen the Kogure Lotus 33 but years ago I built the 1/12th Bandai Lotus 33. The kit was a nightmare and the wheels were freaky over sized. I ended up contacting ABC in Italy and bought a set of tires and wheels for their Ferrari 312 kit. I cut the Lotus wheel inserts out and installed them in the ABC wheels. While not perfect, it really helped the stance of the Bandai. Stu Beautiful my Friend!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2011 22:53:57 GMT -5
Stu, Great job on the Lotus, it does look to be the same kit. When I bought it, there was a Ferrari 158 in the same series (wish I'd picked that up too). My impression is that the body is pretty close, but the rest is the usual simplified motorized car kit of the period. Thanks for the drawings frontyford. I've got several books on the 24/25/33 series, but none of them have useable 3 views. I wish the automotive authors would take a hint from aviation books and consider 3 views mandatory in a technical book. I'm thinking that I will concentrate on the engine/transmission for now and try and produce as accurate a powertrain as possible. I've played around a bit with Blender 3D to create aircraft and engines and am considering trying to make 3D files of some parts like the cam covers and engine auxiliaries so that they could be produced by a 3D printer. Has anyone had any luck with that? Here's an example of a 3D file of an 80hp Le Rhone rotary done in Blender (a really nice free program that gives impressive results).  A nice FWMV should be possible using parts created like that. Don |
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Post by Patrick on Apr 18, 2011 23:17:41 GMT -5
Your 33 is the best I've ever seen. Well done!
Patrick
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2011 21:45:15 GMT -5
I scaled the Lotus 33 drawings that frontyford posted up to 1/24th and 1/12th and printed them out. Out of curiosity, I wanted to see how an AMT Lotus 29 compared to the 33. It's a bit narrow, but close otherwise.  The Kogure 33 looks slightly narrow at the front, but not bad overall. It looks like the wheelbase will be about right.  The Kogure tires aren't too bad for diameter, but the tread and sidewall lettering are a joke.  The engine block/final drive/gear box unit is simplified and boxy in order to hold an electric motor, but the dimensions seem about right and it should be an OK basis for building a detailed drivetrain. Don |
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Post by herk56 on Apr 21, 2011 13:11:07 GMT -5
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Post by harveythedog2 on Apr 21, 2011 13:44:18 GMT -5
Brian,
The seller is from Sylvania Ohio which is about 15 minutes from where I live.
Only people that have never built this kit before will pay that much money for it because they don't know what they are getting into. Just because it's old doesn't mean it's good! Scary!
Stu
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Post by SWT500 on Apr 21, 2011 14:20:56 GMT -5
Bandai kits are a suggestion at best of what they purport to represent. If you don't have time to do it right, why bother?
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Post by herk56 on Apr 21, 2011 14:28:59 GMT -5
Stu, I have one just like the auction, I think I paid $30 for it (a few years ago), still maybe a little too much!
Brian
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2011 17:18:44 GMT -5
I bought the Kogure 33 in 1967 in a shop in Bedford, UK for a couple of pounds. It spent the next few years traveling around in duffel bags and footlockers before getting attic'd in various locations. There's not much left of the box so it wouldn't be a collector's piece, so I figure why not build it?
Don
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Post by formula14kdc on Oct 29, 2011 23:49:10 GMT -5
I'm trying to put the finshing touches on the body of a Finecast Lotus 33. Does anyone have left over yellow stripes from the Tamiya Lotus 25 kit? The Finecast stripes are terribly orange not yellow. Can one get the decals from Tamiya? Any other suggestions? Willing to pay. Needs to go the length of the body. After I take care of that I can add all the outer parts. Thanks.
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Post by formula14kdc on Dec 12, 2011 0:02:53 GMT -5
I have 3 pictures of my Finecast Lotus 33 body. Needs yellow stripe narrowed and equally centered. You asked for pictures Patrick.  . Can you help Calvin please? Can't just change the URL's IMG_00XX this time. |
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Post by Calvin on Dec 12, 2011 0:18:47 GMT -5
I have 3 pictures of my Finecast Lotus 33 body. Needs yellow stripe narrowed and equally centered. You asked for pictures Patrick. . Can you help Calvin please? Can't just change the URL's IMG_00XX this time.    Does anyone else have Fokti? Because I have know idea were to find the "user friendly URL copy bar" |
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Post by Chris on Dec 12, 2011 1:57:24 GMT -5
Above the pic it will say "Share" left click and it will have a drop down that has the uRL and a couple others, its the top URL, right click it and then lrft click "save to clipboard' now go bacl the OWRM and in between the ![]() HERE ![]() right click and then left click "Paste" and you have done it!!! If you are unsure go down to "Preview" and click it and you should see your pic, if not start over!!! Chris  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2011 8:02:33 GMT -5
I'm trying to put the finshing touches on the body of a Finecast Lotus 33. Does anyone have left over yellow stripes from the Tamiya Lotus 25 kit? The Finecast stripes are terribly orange not yellow. Can one get the decals from Tamiya? Any other suggestions? Willing to pay. Needs to go the length of the body. After I take care of that I can add all the outer parts. Thanks. You can get the kit decals directly from Tamiya. You could also consider getting just a whole sheet of yellow decal and just cut the stripes out yourself. Hope this helps. How do you like the Finecast kit? I was considering one and am looking for input as to the quality and building ease of their kits. Chuck |
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Post by formula14kdc on Dec 13, 2011 2:04:55 GMT -5
Thanks Chris but it doesn't like that URL. I tried. Somehow Calvin found a different URL and it works.
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Post by formula14kdc on Dec 13, 2011 2:14:39 GMT -5
Chuck, it's only 1 of 2 I believe in 1/24 scale. If your somewhat of a scratch builder it's possible to make a good build. Don't like the soft suspension arms. I turned the wheels from aluminum. You got to build like it an airplane. From the cockpit (inside out). I soldered the two halves together and scribed in the panel lines like that Japanese small cars modeler. You could separate the top cowling from the bottom half of body like Patrick has done with his Finecast Lotus 25. A little more extra work and how are you going to keep the top on. I like mine but it's been a lot of work. I can't wait till it's done.
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Post by formula14kdc on May 31, 2012 13:46:19 GMT -5
Almost done with the SEF Lotus 33. Looking for a 3d 1/24 two eared radiator cap which is very prominent. Also looking for a nose team Lotus logo decal with a white background underneath the green triangle. Most decals have a yellow background under and around the green triangle. Appreciate any help or suggestions. Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2012 18:56:03 GMT -5
Bandai Lotus33 . Help! Members may know - I had one like this about 40 yrs ago. My recollection was that it seemed like a Lotus 25 in various ways and with terrible incorrect tyres exhaust.gearbox , etc. . But this Bandai L33 box artwork looks familiar. So
1. Was Bandai's L33 vaguely as I describe it and a bit like a composite L24/33? Or did Bandai or some other co issue a dodgy 1/12 Lotus 24/25/33 around late 60s+ ?
2. The detail was so bad, as part of a convalescence I built it into an accurate L33 apart from the tyres including a fulldiameter lowlevelexhaust, metal gauze carbs shield, gearbox ribbing etc. This now quite nice model went missing in Putney London as part of a theft late 1970s. If anyone seen it or comes across it, pl let me know. Thanks. Bill
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Post by Patrick on Jan 7, 2014 13:14:39 GMT -5
Just joined the forum and I'm considering which kit from the ancient stash I should attempt. I've got a Kogure 1/12 Lotus 33 that I've been lugging around for ages and, although it looks pretty toylike, it seems like it could be built up into a pretty impressive replica with a lot of work. Has anyone ever seen one built up and does anyone know of any good 3 views of the 33? I've got plenty of photos, but no plans. Don Don, Are you still out there? Did you solve your tire problem? Patrick |
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