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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2008 11:19:28 GMT -5
OK, Guys! Being retarded, er.... retired (!!) gives me a bunch of time and a renewed fire!
I am looking at the AMT '79 winner kit, and want to do a basically box stock build. Anything glaring that is wrong with the kit? I have an idea as to the paint, etc., and will probably get Mike's INDY CALS for decals (I guess he has those??) to use instead of the kit decals.
Just looking for tips to bring it up to a decent representation of the winner, but don't really want to do a resin conversion, etc..
TIA!
Mongo
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Post by indy on Jun 23, 2008 11:32:29 GMT -5
Nice choice Bill!! ;D Yes, I am biased. AMT kit will be fine but Lance's resin tires are probably a good pick to help you make a good car. I've seen builds where they recommend filling in the headreast area. Fred Cady and IndyCals both have done decals for the '79 winner.
I have the kits, decals, and research at home so I'll see if I can scare up some info for you Bill.
Jordan
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Post by herk56 on Jun 23, 2008 12:16:34 GMT -5
Hi Bill - Pretty straightforward build except for the rear cockpit wall that's missing, easy fix with some sheet plastic. Kit decals were OK back in the day, probably haven't aged well. Some early issues of the PC-6 had the rubber tires like the original AMT McLaren kits had but if you do have the 2-piece tires, Lance's will definitely be the way to go. Good luck with your build!
Brian
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2008 12:25:56 GMT -5
Thank you, Jordan and Brian! Kinda getting my feet wet in all eras of Indy. But my heart still lies with the Kurtis and Watson Roadsters! LOL!! (I reckon neither of you would have guessed that!)
Mongo
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Post by 2lapsdown on Jun 23, 2008 12:26:33 GMT -5
I agree with everything that's been said before. I'd like to add the windshield can be a problem if it's too wide at the back. I broke one trying to bend it so it would lay right. I've thought of asking Lance if he could vacuum form one for me. Lance's tires have certainly breathed new life into these old kits. Enjoy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2008 12:34:23 GMT -5
I agree with everything that's been said before. I'd like to add the windshield can be a problem if it's too wide at the back. I broke one trying to bend it so it would lay right. I've thought of asking Lance if he could vacuum form one for me. Lance's tires have certainly breathed new life into these old kits. Enjoy. I will try a hair dryer if the windshield is a problem. Thanks for the heads up! And yes, I think Lance will get behind quickly on the tire orders! LOL!! Mongo |
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Post by slidinsideways on Jun 23, 2008 12:39:41 GMT -5
I agree with everything that's been said before. I'd like to add the windshield can be a problem if it's too wide at the back. I broke one trying to bend it so it would lay right. I've thought of asking Lance if he could vacuum form one for me. Lance's tires have certainly breathed new life into these old kits. Enjoy. I will try a hair dryer if the windshield is a problem. Thanks for the heads up! And yes, I think Lance will get behind quickly on the tire orders! LOL!! Mongo Are Lance's tires available already?  Bill H |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2008 12:54:00 GMT -5
I will try a hair dryer if the windshield is a problem. Thanks for the heads up! And yes, I think Lance will get behind quickly on the tire orders! LOL!! Mongo Are Lance's tires available already? Bill H SOON! Mongo ;D |
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Post by 2lapsdown on Jun 23, 2008 20:17:53 GMT -5
I should ask Lance for a sales commission. I still can't believe I was the first to ask about these after all these years. Come to think of it, Lance is making more Indy tires than Goodyear isn't he?
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Post by racerbrown on Jun 23, 2008 20:55:47 GMT -5
and probably better quality too!
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duane
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Post by lazierfan on Jun 23, 2008 21:49:28 GMT -5
The other problem with this kit is that the front end seems to sit to high. In order to fix this problem I moved the front hub up on the mounting part of the upper control arm assembly and then put a slight bow in the tie-rod assembly so they would match up with the wheel hubs.
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Post by indy on Jun 24, 2008 8:36:50 GMT -5
For the windshield, I may just tape up the kit one - mark out the dimensions and transfer it to clear plastic/acetate sheet. No molded IndyCar plastic windscreen is accurate IMHO - not the 50s Watsons, 60s Lotuses, 70 Penskes, 80s Lolas, 90s Reynards. They can be used for decent shelfers but accuracy - no so much.
Any advantage to a vacuform windscreen over a making one out of a piece of clear plastic sheet? Cost wise, vacuform windscreens on eBay are about $10 and sheet plastic is a few bucks which you only need a small piece of to make a windscreen.
Jordan
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Post by russd on Jun 24, 2008 8:57:32 GMT -5
For the windshield, I may just tape up the kit one - mark out the dimensions and transfer it to clear plastic/acetate sheet. No molded IndyCar plastic windscreen is accurate IMHO - not the 50s Watsons, 60s Lotuses, 70 Penskes, 80s Lolas, 90s Reynards. They can be used for decent shelfers but accuracy - no so much. Any advantage to a vacuform windscreen over a making one out of a piece of clear plastic sheet? Cost wise, vacuform windscreens on eBay are about $10 and sheet plastic is a few bucks which you only need a small piece of to make a windscreen. Jordan Jordan, How do you keep the sheet plastic windscreen in place on the car? I've thought about doing this (cutting the windscreen from clear sheet plastic) but I'm not sure how you attach it after its cut. Do you glue one side down and let it dry before bending it into shape? What are you using for glue? Russ |
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Post by 2lapsdown on Jun 24, 2008 16:35:31 GMT -5
I was going to try making the screen just a little bigger along the bottom and back. Then tape it in place with low tack tape and then run some glue (Lance says 1/2 white glue to 1/2 water will work) around the area where the screen contacts the cowl. I've also tried gluing windscreens with clear nail polish. I'm open to ideas on this also as I plan to build this kit when I get Lance's tires.
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Post by slidinsideways on Jun 24, 2008 17:10:33 GMT -5
Lance has some watch crystal cement pictured on his website in the Garage area...He says it is useful for glueing windshields in place...
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Post by herk56 on Jun 24, 2008 18:58:56 GMT -5
I swear by Testors Clear Parts Cement. Have used it for a long time with no problems. Sets up fast to hold those problem parts in place, but can be thinned for more accurate and delicate jobs.
Brian
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Post by 2lapsdown on Jun 24, 2008 19:02:25 GMT -5
Thanks, that's good to know
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Post by indy on Jun 25, 2008 8:49:52 GMT -5
 The PC6 Cam2 boxart shows it the best that the windscreen overlaps the body. For reference, the other boxart shows the bottom of the windscreen as a black strip which covers the overlap. Hopefully, I can do some more research tonight.... ;D Jordan |
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