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Post by stonecold44 on Nov 2, 2009 0:20:20 GMT -5
I am having an epiphany. These Monogram kits aren't so bad after all. I had fun with the Pizza Hut Lola and this car is similar. Jordan has said something about how difficult this color is to photograph properly, so suggestions are welcome. My question is: Does the color darken with subsequent coats? This is where I'm at after 2 coats of primer and this is the first coat of Tamiya Flo Red. Here goes   |
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Post by Calvin on Nov 2, 2009 0:34:10 GMT -5
That is sure  [glow=red,2,300] Bright[/glow] ..........how are you going to work on that without sun glasses? LOL ;D But seriously your off to a good start  I know Tamiya pants will darken a little but not much. I've never used flo red but Ive been really puzzled by it? What you see on TV, mag. Pictures, Computer always looks different. I really dont know what to think of what is right and wrong. I have really hard time figuring out orange/reds |
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Post by stonecold44 on Nov 2, 2009 0:43:32 GMT -5
That is sure [glow=red,2,300] Bright[/glow] ..........how are you going to work on that without sun glasses? LOL ;D But seriously your off to a good start I know Tamiya pants will darken a little but not much. I've never used flo red but Ive been really puzzled by it? What you see on TV, mag. Pictures, Computer always looks different. I really dont know what to think of what is right and wrong. I have really hard time figuring out orange/redsReally? Try that being a bit color-blind like me. I have absolutely nothing but blind (no pun) faith that this color will turn out OK for this build. I'm pretty sure it's the same paint Greg used on his TuneUp Masters Lola, and that car was a beauty. The one thing I can tell is that the paint matches up well with the plastic molded parts of the kit. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2009 1:41:00 GMT -5
The Fluor. Red will darken since it is somewhat translucent compared to the regular and metallic colors. Not a candy, but you have to use a white primer to have the full effect.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2009 2:37:06 GMT -5
Greg,
Be careful with the florescent red color. Too much is a bad thing! What I have always done, is exactly what Granatelli's Boys did. First I painted on a primer coat, then a coat of flat white, then the STP Green (Florescent Red.) The Tamiya Florescent Red Looks Good, just be careful with it! Too much can have an awful orange peal effect.
Best to you
Russ
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2009 2:38:41 GMT -5
Greg,
Just check out the Lotus 56 I posted here, that's what I got from doing it the "Granatelli Way."
Best to you
Russ
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Post by indy on Nov 2, 2009 10:13:18 GMT -5
Looks like the paint is very well done and the [glow=red,2,300]glow[/glow] from the paint shows up well in the pics Nice job Double-G ;D Jordan |
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Post by stonecold44 on Nov 2, 2009 23:08:27 GMT -5
Looks like the paint is very well done and the [glow=red,2,300]glow[/glow] from the paint shows up well in the pics Nice job Double-G ;D Jordan Double G..hehe, I like that. Guess that's one way to distinguish me from Greg. Speaking of Greg, you used the same color on your John Andretti car, yes? So is the success of the car in the photograhy skills or will this paint soften a bit? Even with my shade recognition, or lack thereof, I can tell this is really bright. I don't want this thing to look like a ride at 6 Flags in the kiddie playland. |
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Post by stonecold44 on Nov 7, 2009 19:10:50 GMT -5
HELP!!!! It seems some of us are having glitches with our WIPs. My problem isnt as bad as chaparral's but it's still frustrating.
After a few coats of paint, (it went on well) I have found some annoying dark spots or dark lines under the paint.. So should I sand it, reprimer it and re-paint it or just sand and repaint? Is this a typical problem with this color? I only ask because I have no idea where the dark spots come from since the model is molded in orange.
One other item: This car requires the roll bar to be chrome but as I said, it's molded in orange. Any suggestions?
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Post by Calvin on Nov 7, 2009 20:01:45 GMT -5
After a few coats of paint, (it went on well) I have found some annoying dark spots or dark lines under the paint.. So should I sand it, reprimer it and re-paint it or just sand and repaint? Is this a typical problem with this color? I only ask because I have no idea where the dark spots come from since the model is molded in orange. If its was me I would leave it alone, because 1 mistake=3 future mistakes most of the time when trying to fix things....But I dont know how bad the spot(s) is? Adding more paint doesn't ever work with Tamiya. If the spot(s) are bad I guess you're going to have to re-prime  I always use Testors chrome....but takes forever to dry. If you do it right I will come out fine. Putting a flat black base on wouldn't hurt either. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2009 23:25:18 GMT -5
HELP!!!! It seems some of us are having glitches with our WIPs. My problem isnt as bad as chaparral's but it's still frustrating. After a few coats of paint, (it went on well) I have found some annoying dark spots or dark lines under the paint.. So should I sand it, reprimer it and re-paint it or just sand and repaint? Is this a typical problem with this color? I only ask because I have no idea where the dark spots come from since the model is molded in orange. One other item: This car requires the roll bar to be chrome but as I said, it's molded in orange. Any suggestions? As for the dark spots....Well, it depends on where on the cars body the dark spots are and how large they are. The thing I was told by one of the best modelers I have met, is to know when and how you can cover up your mistakes...and we all make them. If they can be covered by a decal, then do it. Sometimes, you can cover the bad spots with a decal or make a decal of the same color and use that. Also, when it comes to chrome parts, which I hate....I usually use some metalizer paint for those. Best of luck to you! Russ |
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Post by stonecold44 on Nov 8, 2009 19:39:35 GMT -5
On Russ' suggestion, I decided to re-prime and paint the sidepod. The other spots are so small that i might be the only one that sees them. Unfortunately the decals don't go in the places that require attention, so I'll just do this easy step. It only puts me behind by a couple of days. Oh well, nobody says this isnt without some adversity.
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Post by stonecold44 on Nov 11, 2009 0:26:40 GMT -5
Getting closer. As you'll see in the photos here, the rear wing and left sidepod is missing. Those are in the shop for painting. The decals came out nice, however I was forced to use a few of the kit's decals because of space. I'd guess only Michael would be able to tell which ones. I used more flat black in the engine to offset the brightness of the exterior paint. I like the black exhaust but it doesn't look as sexy as making it look metallic, but that's OK with me. All that's left is to install the windscreen, mirrors and a few more decals.    I'm open for suggestions on how to properly photograph this beast. The pictures make the paint look darker than it really is. Should I use more soft lights? Maybe no flash? I've never done a car this color and the more I look at it, the more my eyes hurt. |
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Post by Calvin on Nov 11, 2009 0:29:32 GMT -5
O wow thats bright! I need sun !! Looking great! Makes me want to do a STP car! |
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Post by stonecold44 on Nov 11, 2009 0:49:07 GMT -5
I'm telling you, in person it looks more like the way its supposed to. Its bright, for sure. I was watching a video of the 1987 race and Jim Lampley might have said it best; "It looks like a bomb that's about to go off."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2009 1:02:09 GMT -5
Gregg,
Looks good! You may have mastered one of the really tough colors to paint a race car model. Looks good. I discovered how to photograph "Day-Glow Red" race cars by mistake. I was at Parnelli's Museum once and I was tying to take a picture of the 1968 Lotus 56 he had at the time. The camera's flash misfired....and it got the color right on! So....don't use a flash is the way to go!
Just wait until you try pearl white.....I may talk you though that one. I'm thinking it maybe time to build one of Lance 1963 Conversion kits of "old Calhoun"....I discovered my stash of Bob's detail drawings of the beast.
Best to you!
Russ
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Post by professor on Nov 11, 2009 9:11:57 GMT -5
You should try to paint the inside of the tub flat black if you can, that would really help.
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Post by stonecold44 on Nov 11, 2009 11:02:37 GMT -5
Good suggestions. I might be doing another STP car in the very near future.
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Post by Calvin on Nov 11, 2009 12:34:01 GMT -5
You should try to paint the inside of the tub flat black if you can, that would really help. Or better, if you have Carbon Fiber decals. That would really make it look realistic |
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Post by stonecold44 on Nov 12, 2009 0:22:59 GMT -5
You see!! This is why I love this forum. I've learned more in the last 12 months than I could have on my own in a lifetime.
Those are all great suggestions and as I get more skills, I'll be incorporating the tips I've gotten.
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Post by stonecold44 on Nov 22, 2009 12:03:09 GMT -5
Im crossing my fingers on this one. After messing around trying to get the rear wing and a sidepod painted to match the rest of the car, I hope this works. The color is kind of a Competition Orange tint and the re-painted parts came out more like they should, a darker shade but still a flo-red. It's been a nightmare trying to get everything to match but I think I just got lucky and if so, expect to see pictures tonight.
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