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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2009 13:35:54 GMT -5
Ok, I have the Watson years book and the Kurtis Cars book.
What would be *your best* single source of reference for the Indy cars of the mid-50s through the mid '60s? I am looking in particular for the Indy cars of A.J. Foyt during this period but have interest in all the roadsters.
Thank you for your time,
Bill Little
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Post by eagle36 on Nov 28, 2009 13:42:36 GMT -5
Karl Ludvigsen's books:
Indy Cars of the 1970's
Indy Cars of the 1960's
Indy Cars of the 1950's
Indy Cars of the 1940's
Indy Racing Cars of Frank Kurits
Novi Indy Cars 1941-1965
Indy's Wildest Decade - Alex Gabbard
The Watson Years- Gary Wayne
Indianapolis Roadsters 1952-1964 - Joe Scalzo
Indianapolis Racing Memories 1961-1969 - David Friedman
Rodger Ward - Mike O'Leary
Gordon Eliot White
Kurtis-Kraft
Offenhauser
Vintage Motorsport whenever they do a feature on an old Indy car.
Motor Racing Replica News, especially the Russ Bundy and Bob Clidinst two part series, "Watson Roadsters" in issues 7 and 8,
and Bob Clidinst's "Kurtis 500 C/D in issue 4. There are a few other MRRN Indy car articles that are excellent but those 3 are the most comprehensive.
There is no "single source", I have all of the foregoing and I still don't always have the one picture of the other side of this or that car.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2009 14:21:58 GMT -5
eagle36 siad....
"There is no "single source", I have all of the foregoing and I still don't always have the one picture of the other side of this or that car."
AMEN TO THAT STATEMENT BROTHER!!!!!!!!
I may add two of my favorite sources are "The Indianapolis 500" by Jack C. Fox. also the Yearbooks done by that truly disgusting weasel Carl Hungness. Great resource material, lousy human being and I can say that because I worked for him.....once.
Also, there is a funny little book complied by Lyle Kenyon Engel called, "132 of the Most Unusual Cars that ever ran at Indianapolis"
I has mostly winning pictures taken qualifying day, but it as some odd ball cars. I good source and a fun book.
I also use video tape of the actual races and of highlights from the race. I've ruined a few hitting the pause button too long. Good resource material is where you find it.
Best to you!
Russ
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Post by professor on Nov 28, 2009 14:29:26 GMT -5
The Speedway photoshop. 4 million negatives I am told !!!
Anybody can get access,contact sheets are keep in yearly binders. The negatives are kept in a room with a system that sucks all the air out of the room if a fire is detected!! way cool. It's on the second floor at the museum.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2009 3:06:09 GMT -5
I believe we have a breakdown in communication. ;D If you could only have ONE book, which one would it be?
Tom, the Speedway photoshop is a great idea. Do they have a listing of everything they can provide? A trip to Indy in not in the cards right now, so phone calls, etc., would be my only means of communication with them. Say I am going to reference the Antares: Would a phone call to the Speedway be of any good?
This sort of *one source* question has been asked by countless others on other, similar, boards with pretty good suggestions coming out of it. I am fully aware from my involvement in other areas of modeling over the past 50 odd years to know there is no real *One Source*, but some books are better than others to build a collection from. I have several of the books that are listed above, all of which have their good and bad points. A oard member here told me the other day that he shares because his mentor told him to share, which is good. In areas where I DO have some expertise, I share and answer questions repeatedly, because it is the right thing to do.
BTW: Anyone have a copy of MRRN #4 or a copy of the article on the Kuzma C/D by Bob? I have a set of Kuzma drawings from Bob, but they refer to several parts of the article which I do not have.
Russ's article is a great start for the Watsons, I refer to it all the time.
Thanks!
Mongo
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Post by herk56 on Dec 9, 2009 13:14:19 GMT -5
I can send along a copy of that article with your vac body, if you like.
Brian
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Post by professor on Dec 9, 2009 13:57:36 GMT -5
I would call Ron McQueeney at the Speedway photo office. They will send pictures ( at a price) and he will usually help with projects. He knows the cars and is a very nice guy. I would call him soon during their off season. I will be going over next week and could help you out in looking for shots then you could just order by the photo cateloge number.
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Post by SWT500 on Dec 9, 2009 15:01:38 GMT -5
The is a guy there in the sales section named Dave and he is the guy AND a modeler. He recently told me that they can no longer send thumbnails and cannot even look for photos with an order in hand. Things are changing there too. Ron does not control that any longer.
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Post by professor on Dec 9, 2009 15:33:44 GMT -5
Too bad, when I first went to the speedway it was a family, THEN marketing took over and it has been all down hill since. I wouldn't be surprised if it was gone in ten years. Just glad I was there during the good times!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2010 19:19:46 GMT -5
Howdy,
I'm new to this list but the one source I love is "The Roadsters of Indianapolis Glory Days 1952-1966" By Greg Littleton and Bill Enoch. List all the roadsters by manbufacture and has photos of every year the car showed up at Indy photos are black and white however Bill Enoch who took the photos had notes on allmost all of them recording color of the car.
Roger Corrie
Virginia Beach, VA
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Post by indydog on Apr 2, 2010 21:45:21 GMT -5
Along with the Karl Ludvigsen books (some of which I have), there is also "Design and Development of the Indy Car" by Roger Huntington. Covers up to about 1980. Lots of shots "under the skin", so to speak.
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Post by harrymillerfan on Apr 9, 2010 8:45:37 GMT -5
Design and Development of the Indy Car" by Roger Huntington
older book - soft bound - probably find on ebay or most used book sellers - excellent starting point for any decade - mine is dog eared
Gordon White's book on the Offy is also super - might still be in print ...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2010 15:32:16 GMT -5
Design and Development of the Indy Car" by Roger Huntington older book - soft bound - probably find on ebay or most used book sellers - excellent starting point for any decade - mine is dog eared Gordon White's book on the Offy is also super - might still be in print ... Harrymillerfan, I've gone through three copies of that book by Roger Huntington....a great book! Also there is a weird little picture book printed in the late 60's called, "132 of the most Unusual Cars that Ever Ran at Indianapolis" by Lyle Kenyon Engel with some good photos in it. I hate to mention this, but Carl Hungess had a yearbook which had some good photos in those years he produced it........and Karl Ludvigsen's Indy Cars of whatever decade you like from 40's 50's, 60's and 70's......Those are good too....and my recnet discovery by way of Alwaysindy, "Indy's Wildest Decade" - Alex Gabbardm great photos! Best to you! Russ |
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