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Post by scalecentral on Oct 1, 2009 10:01:58 GMT -5
Someone sent me a free Lola T8800 kit from AMT and now I need some ideas. I'm not too game on the KMart Andretti scheme. I was only about 9 when this season was going so I don't remember much. I don't see much on the web but the KMart scheme.
Nic
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Post by indycals on Oct 1, 2009 11:29:38 GMT -5
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Post by Calvin on Oct 1, 2009 11:33:21 GMT -5
Some of the possibilities for the T88...... you can get decals on some....or if you know how to make some decals?
All are Lola T8800c's
Roberto Guerrero STP (Indycals)
Arie Luyendyk Provimi Veal (Indycals)
AJ Foyt Copenhagen (Decals...dont know?)
Bobby Rahal Budweiser (Decals ? maybe some of Indycals decals)
Raul Boesel Domino's Pizza (Decals out of kit?)
Derek Daly Raynor Garage door (Decals ?)
John Andretti's Skoal Bandit(Decals ?)
Didier Theys Uniden/GFE (Decals none I know of)
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Post by indycals on Oct 1, 2009 11:43:52 GMT -5
Bobby Rahal Budweiser (Decals ? maybe some of Indycals decals) I knew I left one out - that option is on my 86 winner sheet. |
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Post by Calvin on Oct 1, 2009 11:50:44 GMT -5
Bobby Rahal Budweiser (Decals ? maybe some of Indycals decals) I knew I left one out - that option is on my 86 winner sheet. Oh, didn't know that  |
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Post by russd on Oct 1, 2009 12:20:50 GMT -5
If you have the Kmart Lola T88 kit, then you have the Chevy engine cover (the pop off valve opening is in a different place on the Cosworth cars). and, of coarse, a Chevy engine. If you intend to make the kit with a removable engine cover then you are going to want to pay attention to which of the above listed decals are for a Chevy powered car. If you do the car as a curbside, you could always move the opening to the correct location (farther towards the rear of the car). I THINK the outside contours of the Chevy cover are identical to the Cosworth engine cover.
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There are decals for a 90 Hardees Lola (Speedway graphics), or you could do the M@r1b0r0 T88 (late season), Kraco T88 (late season).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2009 12:48:23 GMT -5
Hey Russ.......
If I were going to build a Chevy Powered Lola.....I'd build the most infamous oe I know...I'd get the decals from Indycals and build MArio's 1987 ride. Nice looking car!
Best to you
Russ
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2009 13:41:00 GMT -5
Chevrolet cowl:  Cosworth cowl (further aft):  G |
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Post by russd on Oct 1, 2009 13:47:38 GMT -5
Hey Russ....... If I were going to build a Chevy Powered Lola.....I'd build the most infamous oe I know...I'd get the decals from Indycals and build MArio's 1987 ride. Nice looking car! Best to you Russ That is one of the better looking paint jobs. I'd probably do AJs T88. Of coarse you have to get a copy of those decals and they are hard to find. RE: Dominos T88 - The decals that come in the box aren't quite right for the Indy 500 version of the car (I think there is a different Coke logo on the Indy version), but if you are not a stickler for accuracy, that might be a nice looking T88 also. RussD |
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Post by scalecentral on Oct 2, 2009 7:55:33 GMT -5
That is one of the better looking paint jobs. I'd probably do AJs T88. Of coarse you have to get a copy of those decals and they are hard to find. RE: Dominos T88 - The decals that come in the box aren't quite right for the Indy 500 version of the car (I think there is a different Coke logo on the Indy version), but if you are not a stickler for accuracy, that might be a nice looking T88 also. RussD Is it on the sheet that does the Porsche 962 as well? If so, i have those decals. I've got tons of Copenhagen decals so may have to do that one. If not, Domino's it is. Thanks to all for the ideas. Nic |
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Post by scalecentral on Oct 2, 2009 9:51:47 GMT -5
This one...  |
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Post by indycals on Oct 2, 2009 10:50:44 GMT -5
Those aren't the Indy car decals, those look like Porsche 962 markings. Some of the Indy car markings are there, but others are not. This one... |
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Post by scalecentral on Oct 2, 2009 12:43:07 GMT -5
Those aren't the Indy car decals, those look like Porsche 962 markings. Some of the Indy car markings are there, but others are not. Those are 962 markings but the rest is supposed to be for one of his indy cars. Which one exactly, I don't know. These were made by David Romero a long time ago. Nic |
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Post by indycals on Oct 2, 2009 13:15:34 GMT -5
Those are 962 markings but the rest is supposed to be for one of his indy cars. Which one exactly, I don't know. These were made by David Romero a long time ago. Nic Is there more that we're not seeing, because he ran #14 on the Indy car. There should be at least 3 decent sized 14s, one for the nose, two for the engine cover. The two small 14s on that sheet don't look big enough. There were also some Indycar specific pinstripes in both 88 and 89 - they were different each year, but neither are on that sheet. Here's Foyt's 89 car - 88 was similar but not identical. You can't tell in this photo, but the stripe running along the tub and engine cover is actually three stripes:  And from our buddy Lance, here's his 87 car, which looks a little more doable from your photo, but still not 100% there  |
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Post by illeagle10 on Oct 2, 2009 16:16:03 GMT -5
Mike, it sounds like you need to correct this problem with some decals! You used to have a nice set of decals for this car, but I guess there was some problem with them? We could use some good decals for the car beside Foyt. Those could range in years to from 88 to 93! 88 March, 89 Lola, 92 Galmer and a 93 Lola(1/20 scale). Yes Mike, sorry, I'll stop it!
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Post by indy on Oct 2, 2009 16:43:21 GMT -5
I think Indycals stopped carrying these because of the difficulty of getting the orange right
Jordan
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Post by indy on Oct 3, 2009 0:48:00 GMT -5
I should mention that's a limitation of the ALPS printers and not the artist  Jordan |
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Post by indycals on Oct 5, 2009 12:33:28 GMT -5
I should mention that's a limitation of the ALPS printers and not the artist Jordan Yes, I was using a spot orange ribbon not recognized by my printer. I trick the printer into recognizing it. It works fine when used minimally, but when used extensively like on the Foyt sheets, I was breaking the ribbon as much as 50% of the time I tried to print them, which was a huge waste of my time and resources - case in point, white is my most expensive color to print (it is now twice as expensive as it was 3 years ago), and I have to print the white before the orange. If the ribbon breaks, I lose that white that is already down, I lose the sheet of decal paper that can not be used again, and I lose valuable time that could be used printing other orders or working on new art. It was hit or miss... sometimes it would work great for long times with no problems, then it would get to a point where it was nearly impossible to print. The easiest thing for my sanity was to simply no longer offer it. Now, I could revert to process orange (orange made from yellow an magenta), but that comes out looking dull and lackluster, and it is not up to my personal standards of acceptability and if it's not up to my standards, I won't produce it. The ALPS is a very quirky system. Every different ALPS printer has it's own 'personality', and every decal sheet has it's own personality regardless of printer. Don't ask me why. Case in point, my Lotus 78 sheet - for some reason the red on the Union Jack never prints right and I have to do an extra coat of magenta on just the red part of the flag to get it to look good. No other sheet I print has that issue with red, and this happens regardless of the printer I'm using (I have many MD5000s). But this ties into the Foyt sheet issues in that I could almost always predict exactly where the ribbon would break. Also, to get the right shade of orange required at least two coats of orange... even if I got through the first, I had to sweat through a second. |
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Post by Calvin on Oct 5, 2009 12:42:11 GMT -5
I should mention that's a limitation of the ALPS printers and not the artist Jordan Yes, I was using a spot orange ribbon not recognized by my printer. I trick the printer into recognizing it. It works fine when used minimally, but when used extensively like on the Foyt sheets, I was breaking the ribbon as much as 50% of the time I tried to print them, which was a huge waste of my time and resources - case in point, white is my most expensive color to print (it is now twice as expensive as it was 3 years ago), and I have to print the white before the orange. If the ribbon breaks, I lose that white that is already down, I lose the sheet of decal paper that can not be used again, and I lose valuable time that could be used printing other orders or working on new art. It was hit or miss... sometimes it would work great for long times with no problems, then it would get to a point where it was nearly impossible to print. The easiest thing for my sanity was to simply no longer offer it. Now, I could revert to process orange (orange made from yellow an magenta), but that comes out looking dull and lackluster, and it is not up to my personal standards of acceptability and if it's not up to my standards, I won't produce it. The ALPS is a very quirky system. Every different ALPS printer has it's own 'personality', and every decal sheet has it's own personality regardless of printer. Don't ask me why. Case in point, my Lotus 78 sheet - for some reason the red on the Union Jack never prints right and I have to do an extra coat of magenta on just the red part of the flag to get it to look good. No other sheet I print has that issue with red, and this happens regardless of the printer I'm using (I have many MD5000s). But this ties into the Foyt sheet issues in that I could almost always predict exactly where the ribbon would break. Also, to get the right shade of orange required at least two coats of orange... even if I got through the first, I had to sweat through a second. Is that why you dont offer the 1975 Gatorade Mclaren anymore? |
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Post by illeagle10 on Oct 5, 2009 14:25:13 GMT -5
Thanks Mike for you insight on decal making. That's quite interesting. I think more of us need to hear what it takes to make quality decals. Just those couple of paragraphs makes me greatful for what we do have, but it's always great to see something new! Thanks again Mike!
Jim
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Post by indycals on Oct 5, 2009 15:15:06 GMT -5
Thanks Mike for you insight on decal making. That's quite interesting. I think more of us need to hear what it takes to make quality decals. Just those couple of paragraphs makes me greatful for what we do have, but it's always great to see something new! Thanks again Mike! Jim So as not to further hijack this thread, I've elaborated here: mb2501.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=gt&thread=1187 |
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