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Post by indytreads on Feb 6, 2023 9:10:26 GMT -5
Hey guys just curious if there’s a particular air brush kit you would suggest for a first timer. Something that has a nice spray but won’t break the bank. I’ve had great success with rattle cans for years but I’m realizing I’m probably gonna have to dive into an actual air brush setup to be able to spray the colors I want. Thanks for any advice. Joe
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Post by Calvin on Feb 6, 2023 12:26:32 GMT -5
I got a...
GREX TRITIUM TG3, 0.3mm NOZZLE AIRBRUSH
Grex TK-5 Tritium 0.5mm Nozzle Kit
Grex TFK-5 0.5mm Fan Spray Cap & Nozzle Kit
With grex air compressor
Overall the best research you can do is watch YouTube videos on air brushes for a couple days and understand everything about it, before sinking a bunch of money in anything random....
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Post by indytreads on Feb 6, 2023 13:12:53 GMT -5
I got a... GREX TRITIUM TG3, 0.3mm NOZZLE AIRBRUSH Grex TK-5 Tritium 0.5mm Nozzle Kit Grex TFK-5 0.5mm Fan Spray Cap & Nozzle Kit With grex air compressor Overall the best research you can do is watch YouTube videos on air brushes for a couple days and understand everything about it, before sinking a bunch of money in anything random.... Thanks for the info….yeah I just started going down that YouTube rabbit hole for air brushing lol |
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Post by Gary Davis on Feb 6, 2023 13:22:20 GMT -5
All though GREX is a trigger air brush....I think it's a little spendy for a first time user. I Have been using a Paasche H air brush ( single action siphon feed) for over 30yrs and it is still going strong. I have two of the H's. One for color with a .3 needle and the other I use a .5 (the bigger needle) for clear coat only. They are a breeze to clean.I do have the Paasche Talon and VL double action, but don't use them that much, and there are a lot more steps to clean them. I don't care for the double action top trigger...push down and pull back. It takes longer to learn. The Paasche H is a single action where all you do is push down on the trigger...kinda like a spray can, but you have more control on the paint density, and how much pressure you use(less over spray) You adjust the air flow at the compressor and paint flow at the tip of the air brush. Here's a link to Coast Air Brush for the paasche H kit. It has all 3 of the needles and a good price. I will also attach a link for a good compressor (from TCP Global). I have the MAS TC-326T. It runs quite and is great with the tank attached. My first compressor didn't have a tank and it ran constantly...getting hot on long sessions. You have many choices and I hope this LETTER(LOL) has helped you a little. TCP Global tcpglobal.com/collections/airbrush-compressors-master-airbrush Coast Air www.coastairbrush.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Paasche_H_Set |
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Post by robh on Feb 6, 2023 15:43:35 GMT -5
I agree with Gary Davis that a simple, single action airbrush is more than adequate for 99.9% of scale modeling requirements and is easy to maintain and use. Obtaining high quality paint jobs on scale models is more dependent on the skill of the airbrush user than on the airbrush. I recommend taking a look at this site: sites.google.com/site/donsairbrushtips/?pli=1 |
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Post by Gary Davis on Feb 6, 2023 16:24:55 GMT -5
Wow Rob...That's a very informative site. Thanks very much for posting it. I've got it saved in a folder.
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Post by indytreads on Feb 7, 2023 6:28:17 GMT -5
I agree with Gary Davis that a simple, single action airbrush is more than adequate for 99.9% of scale modeling requirements and is easy to maintain and use. Obtaining high quality paint jobs on scale models is more dependent on the skill of the airbrush user than on the airbrush. I recommend taking a look at this site: sites.google.com/site/donsairbrushtips/?pli=1Thanks Gary and Rob..I’ll read through those links |
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Post by Chris on Feb 7, 2023 7:56:04 GMT -5
Coast Airbrush is the go to vendor for all things Airbrush related www.coastairbrush.com/index.html and they will advise you on the best set up for your use. Prices are fair but since going to them my paint has changed immensely. I like using House of Kolor paint they sell in small quantities and their Tech People are the best. I personally use a Iwata and a Badger, actually a couple of each not that you need more than one. Both airbrushes are on the lower side of pricing but again fair. Seems Air Brushes are like Tooth paste, Everyone likes a different one. Stay away from cheap sets from China and very low end airbrushes they dont work and basically just spit out paint...... Chris |
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Post by indydog on Feb 7, 2023 16:52:46 GMT -5
There is always the option of not using an airbrush.
I don't use an airbrush. I have one, a Badger 200, but rarely use it. You can get nice paint jobs with just a rattle can, provided the color you want/need is available.
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Post by arcticwolf on Feb 7, 2023 18:05:32 GMT -5
There is always the option of not using an airbrush. I don't use an airbrush. I have one, a Badger 200, but rarely use it. You can get nice paint jobs with just a rattle can, provided the color you want/need is available. I don't even own one (probably just as well). I use rattle cans, I prefer Tamiya but I'll use whatever gives me the colour. I use the full range of Alclads, applied with various paint brushes. A bit of practice and it works perfectly well. You can also dip the parts.
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Post by indytreads on Feb 7, 2023 18:17:49 GMT -5
There is always the option of not using an airbrush. I don't use an airbrush. I have one, a Badger 200, but rarely use it. You can get nice paint jobs with just a rattle can, provided the color you want/need is available. Yeah I think I might just use the rattle cans at least on these next 4 conversions. There a lot of airbrush info here and it’s pretty overwhelming trying to figure out what I may or may not like. |
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Post by indytreads on Feb 7, 2023 18:24:55 GMT -5
There is always the option of not using an airbrush. I don't use an airbrush. I have one, a Badger 200, but rarely use it. You can get nice paint jobs with just a rattle can, provided the color you want/need is available. I don't even own one (probably just as well). I use rattle cans, I prefer Tamiya but I'll use whatever gives me the colour. I use the full range of Alclads, applied with various paint brushes. A bit of practice and it works perfectly well. You can also dip the parts.
Really that’s been my technique forever. I also like the Tamiya paints. I guess it was the bad reputation TS-36 fluorescent red has that made me feel I should try and air brush my stripes with the Mr. Hobby stuff. But I think I’m just gonna take my chances with the Tamiya paint. Fingers crossed. |
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Post by indydog on Feb 7, 2023 18:33:48 GMT -5
I don't even own one (probably just as well). I use rattle cans, I prefer Tamiya but I'll use whatever gives me the colour. I use the full range of Alclads, applied with various paint brushes. A bit of practice and it works perfectly well. You can also dip the parts.
Really that’s been my technique forever. I also like the Tamiya paints. I guess it was the bad reputation TS-36 fluorescent red has that made me feel I should try and air brush my stripes with the Mr. Hobby stuff. But I think I’m just gonna take my chances with the Tamiya paint. Fingers crossed. Can't go wrong with TS-36 over white...  |
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Post by indytreads on Feb 7, 2023 18:46:41 GMT -5
Really that’s been my technique forever. I also like the Tamiya paints. I guess it was the bad reputation TS-36 fluorescent red has that made me feel I should try and air brush my stripes with the Mr. Hobby stuff. But I think I’m just gonna take my chances with the Tamiya paint. Fingers crossed. Can't go wrong with TS-36 over white... That look good! |
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Post by arcticwolf on Feb 7, 2023 18:57:22 GMT -5
Really that’s been my technique forever. I also like the Tamiya paints. I guess it was the bad reputation TS-36 fluorescent red has that made me feel I should try and air brush my stripes with the Mr. Hobby stuff. But I think I’m just gonna take my chances with the Tamiya paint. Fingers crossed. Can't go wrong with TS-36 over white... I like that. Always wanted one. |
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Post by Calvin on Feb 7, 2023 19:02:42 GMT -5
Can't go wrong with TS-36 over white... If you're lucky and get a good can of TS36 Indycals and myself have been burned by that one can of paint more often than not. I suggest everyone test spray before ever just gambling on a model. The terrible thing is it will seem like it's coming out bright, but it suddenly start looking dull after a few coats. Probably a good video idea for me to do. |
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Post by Art Laski on Feb 8, 2023 0:55:57 GMT -5
I have both the Grex Tritium that Calvin mentioned, and the Paasche H that Gary suggested, and I love them both. The Paasche has been my workhorse for most of the time I've been modeling. If ease of use, consistency, and price are the factors, you can't beat the Paasche. Once you start looking for the next level, the Grex is an outstanding choice.
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Post by drums01 on Feb 8, 2023 18:46:23 GMT -5
For may years I used a rattle can. They normally work well on a simple paint schemes of one or two colors. I found that one of the biggest benefits of an airbrush is the ability to regulate where and how much paint goes to a specific location. In most cases that pertains to multi color schemes over multiple compound curves and crevices; that is when an airbrush is the bees knees.
With all that said, I know individuals who can complete the most complex color combinations with a rattle can and some quality bottle paints and brushes.
With an airbrush there is the learning curve concerning how each paint and paint brand for that matter mixes, polymer, enamel, lacquer, etc. Once the mixture is right, how much air pressure to use on each type of paint without causing overspray, spidering, etc. And lets not forget about the cleaning materials and the cleaning itself. Last, there is the initial cost of a decent airbrush system. So you see, being successful with an airbrush takes a certain investment in money, research, commitment to learning the task, etc. I can safely say though, nearly everyone I know who has invested in the airbrush process will swear it is the best and even the only way to paint. I wish you a fun journey into airbrushing and don't make it harder than it needs to be.
By the way, "Don's Airbrush Tips" web site is the best when it comes to reading about and seeing the various airbrushes capabilities. He goes over the strengths and weaknesses of a single and double action system, cleaning each model, etc. It is time well spent just going through his information, then as he says, practice, practice, and then practice some more.
Ben (DRUMS01)
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