spyder
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Post by spyder on Oct 6, 2021 19:46:58 GMT -5
Need some help on Rick Mear's winning #5 color scheme. Bought a bottle of 2032 Yellow Pearl from well known model paint supplier. To me it looks like a very washed out pearlescent yellow-in the bottle. Did test strips of Tamiya: X-8 Lemon Yellow that looks too pale. TS-16 Yellow that looks too pale. TS-47 Chrome Yellow that looks pretty close. TS-34 Camel Yellow that looks to be too far on the red side.
Any thoughts and opinions on this would be greatly appreciated. spyder
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Post by woody86 on Oct 6, 2021 22:43:32 GMT -5
I painted spoons using various paints and then compared them on a trip I made to see the Mears exhibit at the IMS museum in July. By far, the closest match was Tamiya TS-16 over a white primer. Yes, there is a slight pearl to the paint, but the only way I could detect it (indoors that is) was to shine the flashlight from my phone within inches of the surface of the car. For me, this was the definitive test I needed as I was one on one with the real Pennzoil cars. It was enough for me to come home and basically trash all the other paints I had been using to build my favorite Mears cars. For me, I will even be rebuilding several 1/43 cars I had already made. Just my 2 cents.
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Post by gavkiwi on Oct 7, 2021 9:22:27 GMT -5
The color that Michael from Indycals recommended and is the color I used on my 93 Pennzoil Lola build
was Tamiya TS-16
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Post by Calvin on Oct 7, 2021 19:21:03 GMT -5
We've always used Tamiya yellow for all the 80s to mid 90s Pennzoil cars. I know for a fact the chaparral 2k had a fine pearl to it, but in 1/25 scale that wouldn't even show. But I have no idea if the pc17 had and metal/pearl to it. At least with using Tamiya yellow, you have 98.99% chance no one will disagree with you. The only way to know is hold a paint sample up to the museum car lol
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Post by indycals on Oct 8, 2021 0:48:48 GMT -5
TS 16 is spot on. There's nothing really pale about it. X8 is slightly deeper than TS16, but they are very close. TS47 Chrome Yellow is too far into orange. But I have no idea if the pc17 had and metal/pearl to it. Even if it did, the pearl effect is so faint that it can not be replicated properly at 1/25 scale. In real life you have to be within about 3-4 feet (and in bright sun at the right angle) to even notice it. I did one Pennzoil Car with Tamiya Pearl Yellow (porsche GT1) and it looks way off (and is on the pale side compared to TS16.) I will never try to replicate the pearl effect again.
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spyder
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Post by spyder on Oct 8, 2021 19:36:31 GMT -5
Gentlemen, Thank you. I knew I could count on this Forum to get the very best advise. My wheel house in the pre-wing era and so, as I step out of my comfort zone, it is good to know that assistance can be always found here. The kit is the Tameo 1/43rd. My references are the Hungness Year Book and some images of the car taken earlier this year at The Henry Ford.
I initially used small test strips. The advise to use the white spoon gave a much better visual that made me agree that Tamiya TS-16 was closest to the color images I had at my disposal. Your advise on the "scale effect" of the pearlescent hue makes complete sense. SO, TS-16 it is with no dusting of pearl yellow.
Thank you Woody, gavkiwi, Calvin, and, Michael. Keep doing good stuff, spyder
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