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Post by illeagle10 on Jun 3, 2021 5:22:56 GMT -5
It's looking pretty good to me Calvin!
Jim
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Post by 2lapsdown on Jun 3, 2021 10:05:05 GMT -5
Not a criticism, just an observation. The halo looks too wide top to bottom at the front. It looks like the driver needs more area to see through. Again, not a criticism, just my thoughts.
John
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Post by raceparke on Jun 3, 2021 10:28:57 GMT -5
Honey,
Calvin’s at it again. I’d really like this one.
Yes even more than the last ones. It’s a must-have.
Yes I know I’ve said that before but this time it’s really true.
Honest.
Will this be my last spend?
Sure. . . (Until something else comes along. . . )
Thanks dear, of course go ahead and order that new dress.
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Post by indy on Jun 3, 2021 12:45:11 GMT -5
HTH Jordan  |
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Post by Calvin on Jun 3, 2021 14:20:02 GMT -5
Not a criticism, just an observation. The halo looks too wide top to bottom at the front. It looks like the driver needs more area to see through. Again, not a criticism, just my thoughts. John I'm so offended, John. Lol  But serious... Yeah its messed up. I got everything haywire on it. You could tell I was 2nd guessing myself on my post. Lol |
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Post by Calvin on Jun 3, 2021 14:22:48 GMT -5
YYARMMGABSOT (Yes You're Right My Mind Got A Bit Scrabbled On That) |
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Post by Calvin on Jun 3, 2021 14:25:38 GMT -5
YYARMMGABSOT (Yes You're Right My Mind Got A Bit Scrabbled On That) I'm terrible with abbreviations. Lol I'm always clueless on all your abbreviations lol |
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Post by indy on Jun 3, 2021 14:26:29 GMT -5
HTH = Hope This Helps  Jordan |
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Post by Calvin on Jun 3, 2021 14:54:23 GMT -5
HTH = Hope This Helps Jordan YID TY |
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Post by Calvin on Jun 4, 2021 12:59:12 GMT -5
Just a bit of an update. I have the shape of the halo looking way better, but I need to make a resin copy as its starting to fall apart, this happens when the apoxie sculpt/filler/superglue/styrene start breaking when trying to work on it.
I need a fresh sold resin piece to work with and complete the scratch building process.
Perfect example why 3d drawing and printing is way more efficient and thats why I'm going to start learning 3d. I've done some 3d and have gotten parts printed but I'm still not good at it.
I need to go to Indycals University;)
And to be super transparent (I'm sounding like a public company) I'm going to take the profits from the 2021 kit and buy a new computer so I can run Rhino 3d, Adobe premiere, Adobe Photoshop, Adobe Illustrator and Adobe Lightroom without trouble.
Right now I have a basic laptop and it sloooows me down so much, because it hardly has any RAM.
So once I get a PC with plenty of horsepower, I'll be able to creative and crank out more content. Plus I can get back to creating YouTube videos in a more entertaining way, with more information, facts, history and tricks.
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Post by jj66 on Jun 6, 2021 4:08:31 GMT -5
Agree that the best way to build the halo parts is by designing and 3D printing
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Post by slowbuilder on Jun 7, 2021 9:51:21 GMT -5
Not the same. I don't think the Auto Nation cars have ever quite been this color they are this year. Michael is correct.. Of the two I have done the first was a mirror purple. Not the same as this years. The second one was more just pink and again, different than this years. This years Harvey and Helio are a hot pink and BTW. Both very cool looking. That Krylon may be the ticket. I would air brush it though. Stu Out of curiosity, does anyone know what paint was used on the actual car? The 'real', 1:1 scale, prototype car? Not sure it would help for modeling, but I have to say, it all depends on the lighting and angle. Anywhere from a hot pink to an almost purplish tone. It's like they're TRYING to make it difficult to model! Tom Hampton |
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Post by harveythedog2 on Jun 7, 2021 11:57:38 GMT -5
Michael is correct.. Of the two I have done the first was a mirror purple. Not the same as this years. The second one was more just pink and again, different than this years. This years Harvey and Helio are a hot pink and BTW. Both very cool looking. That Krylon may be the ticket. I would air brush it though. Stu Out of curiosity, does anyone know what paint was used on the actual car? The 'real', 1:1 scale, prototype car? Not sure it would help for modeling, but I have to say, it all depends on the lighting and angle. Anywhere from a hot pink to an almost purplish tone. It's like they're TRYING to make it difficult to model! Tom Hampton I am 100% sure it's a wrap and not paint. The only way to match perfectly is to get a piece of the wrap and have a paint shop scan it. I am honestly thinking of using a hot pink fingernail polish thru my air brush. |
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Post by IndyCarModels on Jun 7, 2021 11:59:32 GMT -5
Agree that the best way to build the halo parts is by designing and 3D printing I would recomment buying a 3d resin printer and not a 3d printer. Much easier and a much cheaper. I just bought a Apex for under $300 and it amazes me to the quality of the prints and I'm 3d stupid. Terry |
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Post by Calvin on Jun 7, 2021 12:18:33 GMT -5
I am honestly thinking of using a hot pink fingernail polish thru my air brush. Lol Please tell the cashier when you buy your hot pink nail polish that you are actually painting a model car with it. Lol |
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Post by Calvin on Jun 7, 2021 12:30:03 GMT -5
So far the Krylon Fusion Hot Pink rattle can is the closest to the real car.....is it 100%?? ?, No....its not as "hot" ..... but at this point it's our only rattle can option.
Indycals is currently doing some research and development on some other paints, but we'll see.....
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Post by indycals on Jun 7, 2021 12:33:48 GMT -5
I am honestly thinking of using a hot pink fingernail polish thru my air brush. That's not a bad idea. |
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Post by IndyCarModels on Jun 7, 2021 13:12:59 GMT -5
Many years ago, when Johnny Rutherford broke his arms at Eldora (I was there) he slot raced with us and he used finger nail polish to get the pearl white finish he wanted.
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Post by indycals on Jun 7, 2021 14:17:07 GMT -5
The solution I'm working on is a bit more complex - and like Stu's solution requires an airbrush - but I hope I can hit the right color. The car is pure, bright magenta. As bright as you can get without it being fluorescent. I discovered that Mr. Color makes CMY pigments that you can add to their paints for custom color mixing. So I ordered magenta pigment, and some Mr. Color white and Mr. Color Pink to experiment with. Keep your fingers crossed.
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Post by Calvin on Jun 7, 2021 16:28:03 GMT -5
I got a new fresh resin piece to work off from with the halo. It's looking better too, not thick like I had. 2lapsdown saved me!   I'm currently aligning everything. I got the undertray screwed down where I want, which gives me a solid baseline to work from to get everything lined up. Trying to line everything up with loose parts is, impossible.  So, there are some scratching tips for you all - make resin copies if your first starts to crumble and screw things down, to get a baseline to work from... The more you Know!  |
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Post by Calvin on Jun 7, 2021 16:55:00 GMT -5
I am honestly thinking of using a hot pink fingernail polish thru my air brush. That's not a bad idea. It would be a good publicity stunt to paint a car with nail polish. Lol I'd personally have to put a Tamiya sticker over the bottle to feel more comfortable with it. Lol |
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Post by indycals on Jun 8, 2021 1:40:21 GMT -5
So... mixed results with the pigment test. I got a better color than the Krylon hot pink but it's not significant. I ended up mixing Mr Color Pink, magenta pigment, and fluorescent pink (just enough to brighten it a bit but not fluoresce). If you want to use a can, Krylon hot pink will be the best bet and will be very close to the magenta printing of my decals - since the decals won't have to butt-up to the paint any difference will be trivial. I'm still going to move forward with a mix of Mr. Color. Short of custom ordering a color from PPG, I doubt you're going to get the exact color of the car so go with what looks good to you.
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Post by Calvin on Jun 8, 2021 2:50:57 GMT -5
Things are looking sharper. I have all the initial parts lines up, the transaxle is center and the wheels should be parallel with the side of the bodywork  The halo is getting closer...Im still tweaking it. Im still trying to shape the top part of the nose inlets, what I have going on is not right, yet....its just a matter of wrapping my mind around it...Its still missing that aggresive sharp look in that area...  |
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Post by Gary Davis on Jun 8, 2021 12:02:41 GMT -5
Man Calvin....this is really starting to look fast right now! You're doing a GREAT job on this car.
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Post by slowbuilder on Jun 9, 2021 6:17:50 GMT -5
Calvin, I agree, this is looking super! I have a couple of questions, from looking at the close-up photo. Not at all complaining, just trying to wrap my head around the shapes:
1. Is the top of the halo sloped/slanting? When I look at the PNC Bank lettering, it almost looks like it is straight vertical - maybe just distortion from that angle?
2. Is that a crease or angle on the canopy, diagonally up from just above the mirror, or is that just where the reflection happens to fall?
Keep up the great work - the designers sure made your life tough! Can't wait for it. Again, great work.
Tom
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Post by harveythedog2 on Jun 9, 2021 8:43:07 GMT -5
So... mixed results with the pigment test. I got a better color than the Krylon hot pink but it's not significant. I ended up mixing Mr Color Pink, magenta pigment, and fluorescent pink (just enough to brighten it a bit but not fluoresce). If you want to use a can, Krylon hot pink will be the best bet and will be very close to the magenta printing of my decals - since the decals won't have to butt-up to the paint any difference will be trivial. I'm still going to move forward with a mix of Mr. Color. Short of custom ordering a color from PPG, I doubt you're going to get the exact color of the car so go with what looks good to you. Michael - Look at this Magenta-Neon. www.art-paints.com/Paints/Airbrush/Life-Tone/Neon-Magenta/Neon-Magenta.htmlIt says it's lacquer which I much prefer over the Krylon enamel. |
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Post by woody86 on Jun 9, 2021 9:58:55 GMT -5
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Post by indycals on Jun 9, 2021 12:43:03 GMT -5
So... mixed results with the pigment test. I got a better color than the Krylon hot pink but it's not significant. I ended up mixing Mr Color Pink, magenta pigment, and fluorescent pink (just enough to brighten it a bit but not fluoresce). If you want to use a can, Krylon hot pink will be the best bet and will be very close to the magenta printing of my decals - since the decals won't have to butt-up to the paint any difference will be trivial. I'm still going to move forward with a mix of Mr. Color. Short of custom ordering a color from PPG, I doubt you're going to get the exact color of the car so go with what looks good to you. Michael - Look at this Magenta-Neon. www.art-paints.com/Paints/Airbrush/Life-Tone/Neon-Magenta/Neon-Magenta.htmlIt says it's lacquer which I much prefer over the Krylon enamel. Neon implies 'fluorescent'. Any luck with nail polish? |
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Post by woody86 on Jun 9, 2021 13:22:50 GMT -5
Near where I live is the base hobby shop where MCW Finishes is based. I was there today as a matter of fact. I am sure they would mix up a custom lacquer based on the krylon paint and would be airbrush ready.
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Post by harveythedog2 on Jun 10, 2021 11:45:23 GMT -5
Neon implies 'fluorescent'. Any luck with nail polish? Haven't gone to check it out yet but will this weekend. |
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