Team Penske 2004 conversion questions

[hcosimo]

Hello, fellas.

I'm from Brazil and my goal isto convert this 2005 Hornish's Penske car into an early 2004 with the right color/decal scheme, so I stripped the painting and started to make the structural changes.

But I have a few questions. Do I need to strip 100% of the paint? Cause there are a few areas which are hard to strip, always end up with some small old paint leftovers.

And how do I paint that? I was thinking buying an airbrush (not only cause of this diecast, I have other ones I would like to work with). Do I need to apply primer, than white paint and finish with the red one? And how do I isolate the areas I don't want do dye red?

Another one, the oil and gas tanks fell off and were damaged by the stripping process. How can I recover it?

Thanks

[indy]

Welcome. There are more experienced builders who I hope will chime in but here is a start....

Stripping 100% of the paint? Yes, I would recommend it. A wire brush can help get off the hard to remove paint from the crevices.

Airbrush? It is good to have but you can do well with aerosol cans if you are just starting out.

Apply primer? Yes, with diecasts you want a base coverage of the whole car with a primer for metal. After that is dry and smooth then spray the body with white all over. Tape off all of the body that will remain white then spray the fluorescent red.

Replacing damaged parts? Paint stripper typically does melt plastic pieces. In the future remove them from the body before apply paint stripper. You can buy another kit to get the parts, make the parts from plastic sheet (sometimes you can find similar parts from items in your own house), or 3D print them.

So you have the decals to do the 2004 Penske cars? IndyCals and the Scale Modeling Channel should be able to get you most to all of the way there, if not.

Jordan

[hcosimo]

Feb 10, 2021 17:59:54 GMT -5 indy said:

Welcome. There are more experienced builders who I hope will chime in but here is a start....

Stripping 100% of the paint? Yes, I would recommend it. A wire brush can help get off the hard to remove paint from the crevices.

Airbrush? It is good to have but you can do well with aerosol cans if you are just starting out.

Apply primer? Yes, with diecasts you want a base coverage of the whole car with a primer for metal. After that is dry and smooth then spray the body with white all over. Tape off all of the body that will remain white then spray the fluorescent red.

Replacing damaged parts? Paint stripper typically does melt plastic pieces. In the future remove them from the body before apply paint stripper. You can buy another kit to get the parts, make the parts from plastic sheet (sometimes you can find similar parts from items in your own house), or 3D print them.

So you have the decals to do the 2004 Penske cars? IndyCals and the Scale Modeling Channel should be able to get you most to all of the way there, if not.

Jordan

Thanks for help, Jordan.

I was able to do 99% of the decals (only the electricity E isn't ready yet), spent a few days vectorizing the logos. Now my plan is to print them in a normal sheet to find out the correct size of it.

The funny thing about the damaged parts is that they are not melted or structurally damaged, they just fell off (only the welded area is still there) and the paint faded. I think I can still glue them back and paint it again, just not sure if the superglue can do the job. I used acetone, but still wasn't able to protect the plastic.

[harveythedog2]

Feb 10, 2021 17:59:54 GMT -5 indy said:

Welcome. There are more experienced builders who I hope will chime in but here is a start....

Stripping 100% of the paint? Yes, I would recommend it. A wire brush can help get off the hard to remove paint from the crevices.

Airbrush? It is good to have but you can do well with aerosol cans if you are just starting out.

Apply primer? Yes, with diecasts you want a base coverage of the whole car with a primer for metal. After that is dry and smooth then spray the body with white all over. Tape off all of the body that will remain white then spray the fluorescent red.

Replacing damaged parts? Paint stripper typically does melt plastic pieces. In the future remove them from the body before apply paint stripper. You can buy another kit to get the parts, make the parts from plastic sheet (sometimes you can find similar parts from items in your own house), or 3D print them.

So you have the decals to do the 2004 Penske cars? IndyCals and the Scale Modeling Channel should be able to get you most to all of the way there, if not.

Jordan

Jordan, I concour 100%. Well done

[hcosimo]

Is there any way to save this suspension and glue the wheel back?


The lower wishbone was loose from the wheel, so I thought if I cut the upper one, would be easy to glue it all with cianoacrylate.



But it just didn't work. I even tried to attach a plastic sheet between the wishbone and the wheel (to increase the contact area to make the glue stronger, but had no success).

[jamesharvey]

Just a suggestion but you might try to use some "blue goo" or something like window putty to hold it in correct place. Putty is pliable and you can shape it to fit while you get everything lined up. Put blocks under the model so there is no weight on the suspension while the putty dries. Once it is dry, you might want to try some super glue then to make your repair more permanent. I have tried this and it worked for me. Good luck.
Jim

[hcosimo]

Feb 28, 2021 14:30:22 GMT -5 jamesharvey said:

Just a suggestion but you might try to use some "blue goo" or something like window putty to hold it in correct place. Putty is pliable and you can shape it to fit while you get everything lined up. Put blocks under the model so there is no weight on the suspension while the putty dries. Once it is dry, you might want to try some super glue then to make your repair more permanent. I have tried this and it worked for me. Good luck.
Jim

Did you use the putty as glue, then you reinforced it with the super glue?

And did you apply small layer, just to glue the wishbones to the wheel?

Thanks for the suggestion.

[jamesharvey]

I used the putty as glue and then reinforced it with the super glue after the putty dried. If you can still attach the wishbones to the wheel, you might want to try super glue gel which does not set up immediately, has more body and will span a small gap. The key is get the prep right by making sure you know how things are going to fit together and how you are going to position your model while the glue or putty set up. Hope something works.
Jim

[hcosimo]

Feb 28, 2021 18:14:53 GMT -5 jamesharvey said:

I used the putty as glue and then reinforced it with the super glue after the putty dried. If you can still attach the wishbones to the wheel, you might want to try super glue gel which does not set up immediately, has more body and will span a small gap. The key is get the prep right by making sure you know how things are going to fit together and how you are going to position your model while the glue or putty set up. Hope something works.
Jim

Thanks, mate. I'll try this out.