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Post by quattro on Jun 13, 2020 10:04:13 GMT -5
A little while ago I did one of the Penske PC 7 conversions from a PC 6 in 25th. All the time I wondered about doing a complete model of something not available in kit form using styrene and other odds and sods. Was sent a picture of the Sullivan March 82c at Milwaukee and thought it would be worth a try.
First thing is that should Ampersand ever put out that 1/43rd kit of the March 82c I will take two regardless of how this job turns out.
Started with my own plan and side elevations which should help with doing decals at the end as well. And it all comes back to where I started with paper models. I am not a Calvin or lance or kevin. This is intended afterall as a one off.
Rear end ingredients. Eraser block for engine and gearbox. Styrene and paper clips lengths for suspension. Had no reference for the back end so looked at a cutaway online, and hoping he does not mind, Kevins Silvercity 25th 82c kit for clues.
Nicked these few bitz from military and wargaming bitz and the ink tube from a ball point pen.
Keep checking for size. Based the drawing size on my existing mid Eighties models from Ampersand and SMTS. Figured on a 65mm wheelbase. Plasto on the nose and a cotton bud stem behind the cockpit.
Off to do my own decals. The wheels will come from some beaten up cheapo diecasts from Onyx. The windscreen should be OK to do as I just follow my drawing and it should fit. I can see a few bitz that are not correct already but going to push on.
Already thinking about future 1/43rd projects like a Can Am Intrepid from 1980 or those Penske PC12s given they are predominantly blocky and I struggle with the curvy bitz. Feels like a bit of a cheat using paper modelling techniques but if it looks alright at the end......
Be back with the finished product in due course. Back to work for a while.
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Post by raceparke on Jun 13, 2020 12:53:22 GMT -5
Hi Quattro, That looks very nice. Paper modeling techniques are not a cheat, but a way to build what you want build, a skill you’ve obviously mastered. A Can Am Intrepid sounds lovely, why Not make it in a larger scale and market it? 😂😂  I’ve got room on my shelf. Just sayin’ . . . . Your best friend, Dan |
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Post by putt on Jun 13, 2020 13:23:19 GMT -5
Wow looks awesome. Bob
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Post by lance on Jun 13, 2020 16:35:53 GMT -5
Most Impressive!!
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Post by jebracing on Jun 14, 2020 9:22:42 GMT -5
I’d commit to buying an Intrepid Can-am should you decide to produce it, in 1/43rd.
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Post by jj66 on Jun 14, 2020 12:31:03 GMT -5
Outstanding result. Thanks for sharing the process.
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Post by csl on Jun 14, 2020 15:40:38 GMT -5
Looking great!! Nice shelves too.
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Post by quattro on Jun 14, 2020 18:41:57 GMT -5
Whao there chaps!
Appreciate thumbs up from you lads.
Dan. Fantastic display. All in 24h? 'Jebracing'. I would as well.
Just so we do not get carried away. I would not have the first clue as to casting something. I have become fascinated by the process of late, but honestly, these things are/would be like one offs to fill gaps in my own collection. However, if anyone of the 'Magicians' want to have a go..... How niche would that be?
Digressing but did not think anyone remembered the Intrepid. It went through three or four distinct changes in few races it ran from what I see in the limited reference I have to hand.
1/43rd Sullivan Lola T 530s out there by One Mann Factory and a Frisbee coming from Marsh Models..... |
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Post by raceparke on Jun 15, 2020 9:11:47 GMT -5
Hi Quattro,
Of course my post was a bit of a leg pull, as far as expecting an immediate production run. I do think some of those neo canam racers looked pretty cool.
Yes my sports cars are 1/24.
Dan
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Post by Art Laski on Jun 15, 2020 14:19:02 GMT -5
That's pretty neat stuff!
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Post by shunter on Jun 18, 2020 15:38:21 GMT -5
That is excellent...
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Post by quattro on Jun 19, 2020 17:56:39 GMT -5
Decals done on my inkjet.
Not perfect but it does help having the plan to follow. Wonder how GWS and Indycals do theirs. The black and trim from nose to cockpit to engine cover is all one piece that meets on top at the back. Took some doing but was worried the thin trim would be too thin at this scale. This decal paper I use has a habit of curling.
Hopefully be done by end of the weekend. |
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Post by jj66 on Jun 20, 2020 5:39:37 GMT -5
Looking good!
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Post by raceparke on Jun 20, 2020 9:50:09 GMT -5
That’s very nice. I like a colorful scheme.
Dan
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Post by quattro on Jun 21, 2020 3:09:23 GMT -5
It as been an interesting exercise.
The windscreen ended up being a mare. Cutting everything out by hand means being slightly out on what I drew by a fraction here and there and it does create issues further along. I have mentioned cricut system before. Could have placed the front wheel assembly a tad further back. The rears look more F1 than Indycar but I can swap out later when I source something better. Have two pics of the car that are mainly from the front so there may be the odd decal missing. And it feels so light compared to the white metal and resin I am used to.
Wiith some patience melding the paper modelling stylie with traditional modelling can work, although I do not know what purists would think. I do not have the skill of the likes of Calvin, Kevin, Lance or Bo but do know how to fold paper and plastic so resorted to this. I wouldn't tackle anything with a whole lot of curvature but there are some late seventies and early Eighties stuff I might get round to having a go at. Might try something in 24/25th one day. And of course these subjects would be of cars not ever produced as kits. Guess that is where this sort of thing is useful.
With regards to the 82c in 1/43rd, I am still hopeful we will see a kit release from Ampersand. I would snap up two or three in an instant. But I know that other commitments or opportunities can mean things take time or do not happen. It was the google search for such a kit that bought me to this site and eventually joining up!
Keep well guys.
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Post by putt on Jun 21, 2020 11:02:55 GMT -5
Man I love this forum. What a great build love the seeing different ways to tackle building a replica . Bob
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Post by vintagerpm on Jun 23, 2020 8:54:40 GMT -5
Fantastic bit of scartchbuilding. Bravo!
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Post by robh on Jun 23, 2020 10:08:45 GMT -5
Outstanding!
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Post by indy on Jun 24, 2020 14:53:24 GMT -5
This whole thing has me amazed. Want to build a car, draw up 2D drawings, build it up, get all these complex shapes done impressively, and build it up with own decals. Experiment well done!
Inspiring stuff. This is why I check in here at least once a day to see what is going on here.
Jordan
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Post by Calvin on Jun 25, 2020 2:26:42 GMT -5
I love how you jump in a get these cars built.
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Post by csl on Jun 29, 2020 18:50:50 GMT -5
An inspiring build. Looks great.
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Post by shunter on Jun 30, 2020 15:27:27 GMT -5
Bravo...excellent job.
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Post by indy on Jul 3, 2020 19:51:30 GMT -5
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Post by lance on Jul 3, 2020 21:24:42 GMT -5
Outstanding work!
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Post by quattro on Jul 20, 2020 8:02:57 GMT -5
Experimentation continues.
After having a go at this March 82c I did mention that I was kinda bottling it when it came to doing curved panels.
Well, 'Raceparke' Dan was good enough to lead me to some pointers on something he had done in the past which in turn gave me a clue as to how to proceed on another project.
Tacking on here rather than starting a new thread.
The Douglas Shierson Rcing DSR-1 from early 84. Yup. Another Sullivan job.
Based on one of the Ampersand 85c kits with the side pods chopped off and starting them from scratch. The pods go from being standard squared off to scalloped at the rear. The lovely tip I picked up was to simply create a a curved support piece under the pod. Bit like a bulkhead type thing. It sorta worked. I have no drawing for this. It is eyeballed but seems OK. I know many of you have probably used this method before but it opens up all sorts for me.
Once the decals from Indycals arrive I will get on and try to finish it up. |
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Post by indy on Jul 20, 2020 9:27:27 GMT -5
That is very impressive. Great job on it. Looking forward to you finishing another original.
Jordan
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Post by shunter on Jul 20, 2020 15:53:02 GMT -5
Certainly on a roll, looking forward to this experiment..
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Post by quattro on Sept 7, 2020 16:29:01 GMT -5
Heya chaps. Hope all well with all of you and yours. Bin a while but finally done. Got some leave and the usual quality decals arrived. Sullivan DSR-1 Long Beach 1984.  Had a limited amount of reference material and did the Long Beach version coz its the only time it raced. Most of the trim was silver. By the time they tried it at Indy before dumping it I think the trim and roll hoop was black. Sure it is off on more than a few of the dimensions and bit ropey with the finish in places but doubt a kit of this would ever get made. Thoughts of the lovely looking Ligier of the time which was produced as a kit by a couple of french producers back then. Dunno where from here now. Bin given a heads up on the White Penske Sullivan qualified after busting his arm at Indy.... And I have a few of the Atlantics he raced to start on as well as maybe looking at a Can Am Frisbee. Its not all Sullivan though to be honest despite my posts. Got a few IMSA BMW topics to tackle. Three weeks leave with nowhere to go after having to abort the Laguna trip for what would have been the IMSA and Indycar races on consequetive weekends. Hey ho. Guess its time to build build build. |
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Post by raceparke on Sept 7, 2020 16:48:01 GMT -5
Hi Quattro
V nice indeed! It’s great to have a collection of unique models, isn’t it? CanAm Frisbee, Formula Atlantics. . . Can’t wait.
Dan
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Post by indy on Sept 7, 2020 20:31:35 GMT -5
Great looking car. Not sure there are any DSR-1 rivet counters out there LOL It looks right in the pictures so it is a great model.
Jordan
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