Post by indy on Jul 16, 2009 12:56:51 GMT -5
A little backstory on this post - I got a PM on another board from a guy wanting to build a Revell Reynard kit into Tony Kannan's Michigan winning 1999 Reynard Honda Firestone car. Here's his original PM and my response.
Hey no trouble at all!! I have researched these things at length. So ask away and I'll give you more information that you ever wanted LOL I'll give you pointers on making an "ultra correct" version but at the same time I know it is a hobby and support you building it however you want (so I am not really a "rivet counter" LOL) Nice choice on the 1999 Tony Kannan's Michigan 500 winner - now THAT was an amazing finish to a race!!
Okay, so let's take these one by one
...on the superspeedway cars did they run the brake scoops...
No they did not and they ran no backing plate so it left the back of the upright showing. I put a pic of this below
...and the scoop on the left side of the body?
The turbo inlet, I don't see it on Tony's car. Some teams ran them all the time, some never ran it, and some would got back & forth. I think leaving it off is probably right. What the Forsythe team likely did was run a mesh dome over the opening in the bodywork where the turbo scoop would normally mount. This way they could still get fresh air to the turbo but not have anything sticking out in the airflow
Also I noticed the red was darker than the red on the Nascar cars. Was this true or just the way the car showed up on tv?
I think it still was as bright a red as was on the Target cars. I was looking for a good side by side shot of the Tony car and a Target car but couldn't find one. Any bright to medium red should look okay.
I don't know how far you are so let me recommend that this car can build mostly straight out of the box with the Miller Lite, Motorola, or Pioneer kits. The other kits are 1998 body styles but should still look just about right (most ppl can't tell the '98 from the '99). The speedway rear wing that comes in the kit will look nice and right to most but the real rear wing they ran at Michigan was the Hanford Device. Here is a cross section of that wing:
It was basically a huge boat anchor at the back of the lead car and usually allowed the following cars to slingshot by with ease (think of the 99-01 Cup resistor plate package on steriods). The Handford Device rear wing and non-scoop wheel backs have never been produced in plastic or resin so they would take some scratch building - up to you how far you want to take the build. If you tackle both though, then I'll tell you about the tunnel blockers they ran on the underside ;D
Oh and a couple of final touches (easy ones I promise ;D) is to cut off the vertical rear fin ("shark fin") on the engine cover - they were not running this on the #44 at Michigan in 1999. Also, on superspeedways ChampCars almost never ran the little wings in front of the rear wheels like what comes in the kit. What they ran was just a little kickup with no endplates. You can create this pretty easy with sheet plastic/metal or maybe even cutting the sides off of the kit piece (but I just thought of this one so I haven't tried it yet). Here is a decent picture of the superspeedway kickups:
Anyways, it is always fun for me to talk about these cars and kits
So keep the questions coming as long as you have them - I'm here to help I hope to see it posted one day and if not, maybe you can shoot me a shot or two. ;D
Jordan
So, if you read to here, I hope that means it helped you. LMK if it did help you because and I can start posting these as I get them (seems like I get one every month or two)
Hey Jordan sorry to bother you, but I'm building a model of the car Tony Kanaan won the 1999 Michigan race. I didn't watch to many of the Champ Car races back then, but on the superspeedway cars did they run the brake scoops and the scoop on the left side of the body? ( the one Revell has in their instruction sheet.) Also I noticed the red was darker than the red on the Nascar cars. Was this true or just the way the car showed up on tv? Thanks sir!
Hey no trouble at all!! I have researched these things at length. So ask away and I'll give you more information that you ever wanted LOL I'll give you pointers on making an "ultra correct" version but at the same time I know it is a hobby and support you building it however you want (so I am not really a "rivet counter" LOL) Nice choice on the 1999 Tony Kannan's Michigan 500 winner - now THAT was an amazing finish to a race!!
Okay, so let's take these one by one
...on the superspeedway cars did they run the brake scoops...
No they did not and they ran no backing plate so it left the back of the upright showing. I put a pic of this below
...and the scoop on the left side of the body?
The turbo inlet, I don't see it on Tony's car. Some teams ran them all the time, some never ran it, and some would got back & forth. I think leaving it off is probably right. What the Forsythe team likely did was run a mesh dome over the opening in the bodywork where the turbo scoop would normally mount. This way they could still get fresh air to the turbo but not have anything sticking out in the airflow
Also I noticed the red was darker than the red on the Nascar cars. Was this true or just the way the car showed up on tv?
I think it still was as bright a red as was on the Target cars. I was looking for a good side by side shot of the Tony car and a Target car but couldn't find one. Any bright to medium red should look okay.
I don't know how far you are so let me recommend that this car can build mostly straight out of the box with the Miller Lite, Motorola, or Pioneer kits. The other kits are 1998 body styles but should still look just about right (most ppl can't tell the '98 from the '99). The speedway rear wing that comes in the kit will look nice and right to most but the real rear wing they ran at Michigan was the Hanford Device. Here is a cross section of that wing:
It was basically a huge boat anchor at the back of the lead car and usually allowed the following cars to slingshot by with ease (think of the 99-01 Cup resistor plate package on steriods). The Handford Device rear wing and non-scoop wheel backs have never been produced in plastic or resin so they would take some scratch building - up to you how far you want to take the build. If you tackle both though, then I'll tell you about the tunnel blockers they ran on the underside ;D
Oh and a couple of final touches (easy ones I promise ;D) is to cut off the vertical rear fin ("shark fin") on the engine cover - they were not running this on the #44 at Michigan in 1999. Also, on superspeedways ChampCars almost never ran the little wings in front of the rear wheels like what comes in the kit. What they ran was just a little kickup with no endplates. You can create this pretty easy with sheet plastic/metal or maybe even cutting the sides off of the kit piece (but I just thought of this one so I haven't tried it yet). Here is a decent picture of the superspeedway kickups:
Anyways, it is always fun for me to talk about these cars and kits
So keep the questions coming as long as you have them - I'm here to help I hope to see it posted one day and if not, maybe you can shoot me a shot or two. ;DJordan
So, if you read to here, I hope that means it helped you. LMK if it did help you because and I can start posting these as I get them (seems like I get one every month or two)
