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Post by billj on Dec 12, 2019 18:23:44 GMT -5
First I would like to thank Calvin and Michael for making some conversion parts and decals to allow us to build some significant GT40's.
The excellent Fujimi kits of the Ford GT40's seem to have skyrocketed in price since the release of the Ford vs. Ferrari movie. Too bad Fujimi didn't put out a new release of any of the kits. Anyway, I wanted to clear up some information about the 1:1 cars and the nice Fujimi kits. Obviously there is a MKI and a MKII. each are there own design, similar in shape and basics but the MKII was built specifically to run the big block Ford FE engines and the MKI was built for and ran the Ford small blocks. Historic Racing Miniatures makes a nice conversion kit that provides a small block and associated parts to upgrade the Gulf Ford GT40 kits. The 68 and 69 cars ran the Gurney-Westlake heads. The 64-66 MKI cars ran a standard Ford HiPo head.
There are actually 2 different MKII cars, the first generation car as run in 1966 and the second generation car which only ran in 1967, along with some Gen1 cars. The 2nd generation car was a lighter chassis, built from the ground up and changing numerous things from the Gen1 car. A few noticeable differences are less air scooping and ventilation in the rear compartment. Under hood changes made better air flow possible and eliminated the need for the snorkel scoops and such. The Gen 2 cars ran dual Holley carbs, early testing showed they needed more horsepower to compete with the new Ferrari 330 P4, so a dual 4 barrel setup was added. One other notable change on the Gen 2 cars was a full coverage roll cage that was not in the Gen 1 cars. The easiest way to tell the difference between the 67 Gen 1 and Gen 2 cars were the rear fender flares on the Gen 2 cars. Some called the Gen 2 cars the MKIIB, which makes sense.
I wanted to explain why some kits were different and why some parts are required to replicate a particular car, which may of may not be inside the kit box. Happy modeling
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Post by Calvin on Dec 12, 2019 20:07:52 GMT -5
The excellent Fujimi kits of the Ford GT40's seem to have skyrocketed in price since the release of the Ford vs. Ferrari movie. LOL yeah and now they are going for $349... link to expensive Fujimi kit on ebay
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Post by Calvin on Dec 12, 2019 20:20:31 GMT -5
Thank you for explaining the differences. I've been learning a lot as I go....Before taking on the Ford GT40 projects I really didn't know much, but I have caught on fast as I've been very passionate about these projects lately.
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Post by alterrenner on Dec 13, 2019 5:37:04 GMT -5
I believe the Mk IIB had a different dash, as well?
--Frank
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Post by flashman on Dec 13, 2019 11:19:34 GMT -5
The excellent Fujimi kits of the Ford GT40's seem to have skyrocketed in price since the release of the Ford vs. Ferrari movie. Too bad Fujimi didn't put out a new release of any of the kits. I had been seeing that the prices of the Ferrari P4 kits have also skyrocketed, and I was mystified on why . It never occurred to me it was because of the movie (duh...). And you're right that Fujimi missed a golden opportunity to cash in on the movie. My initial thought was that Calvin's recent GT40 and P4 transkits have been so popular that it had caused a leap in demand for those kits! At least that was why I have been looking at those kits on ebay, because I'm about to order his P4 Spyder transkit, and I currently only have an ancient built one I did 40 years ago. I suppose I can dismantle and use it for the transkit, but would rather start with an unbuilt kit. Cameron
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Post by mjjracer on Dec 13, 2019 14:44:49 GMT -5
The excellent Fujimi kits of the Ford GT40's seem to have skyrocketed in price since the release of the Ford vs. Ferrari movie. LOL yeah and now they are going for $349... Crazy. I missed out on Calvin's special combo so I went to eBay and bought one for $50ish. I then got a message saying "Ooops. we're out of stock". So I found another one and wouldn't you know - same message. But it looks like third time is the charm. I got the last one on eBay that was around $50 - and got a message it was shipped. Yay! I guess they are worth whatever someone is willing to pay. (Not sure it was a good idea to pre-order the 1/12 Trumpeter re-release, though it's cheaper than the current prices on the Fujimi. I really love the GT-40!) MJ
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Post by indycals on Dec 14, 2019 14:39:33 GMT -5
It never occurred to me it was because of the movie (duh...). Yep. The bump from the movie was far bigger than I expected.
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Post by quattro on Dec 17, 2019 6:54:04 GMT -5
Stating the obvious but someone needs to get out to Tokyo.
A mate of mine was out there in the summer and the kits are readily available and correctly priced. Mainly the red No3 version. My daughter brought me two back after a trip there this Autumn.
She told me about a chain of kit stores called Mandarake. Went and looked and found a bunch of Ferrari P4s well priced. Paid the duty but I have a batch of Fujimi and Union P4s and 512s at a reasonable price rather than the ebay prices.
There are two Union Ferrari P4 model kits still available at the Sahra and Nagoya stores........
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Post by billj on Jan 7, 2020 17:04:12 GMT -5
I believe the Mk IIB had a different dash, as well? Not sure about the dash.When shopping for kits, there are 2 different red #3 kits. One is from the 1966 season and is a MKII. It does not include the parts to make the 1967 MKIIB version. You will need Calvin's excellent conversion parts. There are 2 different boxes also for the 1966 kit and one even has the "Mercury" 1967 version picture on the box, although no partsĀ for the 67 MKIIB version. This kit represents the 1966 LeMans car #3.There is also a kit marked '67 Daytona of the #3 red car and it had the MKIIB parts as well as decals for the Daytona car from 1967. Generally harder to find then the 1966 version of the kit.
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