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Post by alwaysindy on Aug 31, 2019 10:56:19 GMT -5
We often talk about “holy Grail models”...this is one of mine...Christian Gouel is still making Kits, just no longer 1/24...he also made a Lotus from 1965 and Ferrari from 1964...  6E4715AF-DE04-4FA7-80AD-7E3A4D41F0CD by Tim Jones, on Flickr A lot of parts...  16BB5C6C-6275-418A-A3B2-C0E45D72A193 by Tim Jones, on Flickr Comes with resin, white metal, photo etch, spark plug and fuel injection lines,several screws(!?)... annnnd the kitchen sink!  824B1A1C-2A45-4002-BCBE-7001C2185780 by Tim Jones, on Flickr Engine mock up with “waterfall exhaust”  511F5321-F526-4405-99A2-4432515A4826 by Tim Jones, on Flickr This is gonna be wild... This car is a Lola body designed after the Lola T 90....Wait! That’s the Graham Hill 1966 winner!...Oh well...This Cars holds the distinction of winning it’s first ever Grand Prix (at Monza in 1967) and only leading the last lap...it never won again... I just finished my first Jaunjo Mas resin car...so onto a tour of Resin Casters... Christian Gouel—- Honda RA 300 Calvin Salee———2018 Honda Indycar...Bourdais Chris Etzel———1920 Winner Lance Sellers——1967 Andretti (with finger) Gary Doucette——1938 winner Fernando Pinto——1939 Auto Union Type D LeMans Miniatures-1937 Bugatti Don’t know what order I will do these, but they are on the schedule... Questions, comments welcome! Thanks for stopping by... Tim |
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Post by alwaysindy on Aug 31, 2019 12:07:23 GMT -5
Wow! Left off Kevin Kuzman—-Yunick Eagle! (He talked me into it at Indy)
Tim
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Post by bevital on Aug 31, 2019 17:22:09 GMT -5
wow!! what a jewel! I always desired to purchase a Gouel's 1/24 kit, but I never got it! I hope you will share with us the WIP!!
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Post by sandysixtysfan on Sept 1, 2019 8:57:03 GMT -5
Wow, I've never heard of this before. This is an awesome kit. Glad you got this. I just found his site at cg-models.com/welcome.html . All '43, '32 now and museum quality '5, and '8 engines! Your list of resin just doesn't get any better! Sandy |
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Post by Calvin on Sept 1, 2019 16:03:25 GMT -5
Beautiful kit. That would have taken a huge investment with all those multimedia parts
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Post by bevital on Sept 2, 2019 12:02:51 GMT -5
If I can dare, looking at the photos of the built model, it seems to me that the tires are a bit too wide for 1967, especially the front tires...
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Post by racerbrown on Sept 2, 2019 17:08:07 GMT -5
a beautiful kit!
i'm sure you'll do it justice.
duane
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Post by alwaysindy on Sept 4, 2019 13:09:20 GMT -5
If I can dare, looking at the photos of the built model, it seems to me that the tires are a bit too wide for 1967, especially the front tires... Bevita: Good eye! I had noticed a few things which I don’t understand...the tires (particularly the front) too wide? No extra space between the 3rd and 4th intake trumpets? I don’t like to critique resin kit builders, as it is much more difficult than it looks...I’m guessing that Mr Gouel didn’t have many detailed photos when this was being birthed...this kit has got to date somewhere right after the turn of the century, so it is 15-20 years old(?)...the kit finishes with a long screw in the middle of the red circle decal to attach the nose (?)...I have been debating whether to build OOB, or modify some things... Any ideas on proper tires and where to get them would be appreciated...at Indy, I talked to Kevin, Walt, and Lance about using 67-68 Indy tires on an upcoming 1968 Spa winning McLaren MA 7 Heller kit...we couldn’t’t really decide... Tim |
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Post by bevital on Sept 4, 2019 14:54:51 GMT -5
Tim, i think that for an experienced modeler it's almost impossible to build even a MFH kit OOB...  Regarding tires, in 1/24 it's a nightmare, 'cause there's almost nothing in this scale in the aftermarket... maybe a set of tires from Ferrari P4 or Ford GT 40 Fujimi kits may work.... obviously, you'll have to tighten the rims... |
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Post by jj66 on Sept 8, 2019 12:30:49 GMT -5
One of my iconic cars! The kit looks outstanding.
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Post by harrymillerfan on Sept 18, 2019 17:18:04 GMT -5
Lucky Dog this is in fact rare I got the Ferrari kit but the Honda sold out before I pulled the trigger on that purchase these were in fact the first detailed 1/24th resin GP kits but I found that the resin is soft and I may have to replace the nose/cockpit body work which I'll do - very glad I've got the kit despite this criticism how is the resin in your kit  |
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Post by alwaysindy on Sept 19, 2019 10:15:11 GMT -5
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Post by bevital on Sept 20, 2019 13:23:44 GMT -5
Much better, Tim... but they seem to me to have still a "round '70s" look... can you compare them with Fujimi GT40 MKII ones?
where these tires come from?
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Post by Patrick on Sept 20, 2019 14:42:30 GMT -5
This looks so good! I have a fiberglass slot car body of the car and have scratch-bashed the engine so far.  NO detail except for a couple of section lines. I'm interested to see How you proceed with the build. One point, the rivet detail on your body seems gigantic! Patrick |
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Post by alwaysindy on Oct 17, 2019 11:47:37 GMT -5
Gentlemen: Be careful what you wish for,,, This Holy Grail has taken a turn for the worse...First: tires... The real car at speed...note the tires and exhaust...  653C25B9-C9DB-4AF4-97E5-E1E38AC17820 by Tim Jones, on Flickr With Ford GT tires...  6F76194A-D466-4D4D-BBEC-648650C0174D by Tim Jones, on Flickr The kit “built photo”...  68799A16-9ED1-4215-AD68-BD0719AD4091 by Tim Jones, on Flickr Tires waaaaaaaay off and exhaust: almost flat...so I am scratch building the exhaust(!) Bevita: What do you think? I checked out your Brabham BT 24 and the tires appear correct.Can you check to see the difference between the SE Finecast and Revell Ford GT? I am also interested in correct tires for my ‘68 McLaren M 7A... Any comments, thoughts, inspiration, are welcome! Tim |
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Post by racermagic on Oct 17, 2019 17:52:35 GMT -5
Scratch building the exhaust. That i want to see.
In your capable hands, it will be neat to see it done.
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Post by bevital on Oct 18, 2019 8:50:19 GMT -5
Hi Tim... thank you for asking my opinion, I fear you give me too much credit... Anyway, I've built two GT40s, one is a Targa Florio version and it's exposed in Targa Miseum in Collesano.... the other one is the Le Mans '66 2nd place (and moral victor)... I've built it 27 years ago (as you can see from the yellowed decals)  the GT40 tires and the Brabham tires are quite similar... I still believe that these are the best (or the least bad) tires for your Honda... but maybe someone has a better idea....  |
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Post by bevital on Oct 18, 2019 10:52:21 GMT -5
However, I'm really surprised that a great modeler like Christian Gouel made such a mistake with the tires' width...
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Post by racermagic on Oct 18, 2019 12:27:18 GMT -5
The Brabham.... Oh my....the GT40 has also remarkably aged well. Signs of a great build.
But that Brabham just grabs you... Thanks for posting. Nice cars.
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Post by jj66 on Oct 19, 2019 15:52:54 GMT -5
Tim, can you post the body size? or what tire size do you need?
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Post by Aurora on Oct 21, 2019 6:04:03 GMT -5
Bevital's tires look pretty good.
Perhaps another source for tires might be a Testors Famous Fords series kit, either the Lotus 38 or the GT40? Or the equivalent IMC kit?
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Post by alwaysindy on Oct 23, 2019 15:59:53 GMT -5
Juanjo:
I’m going with the Revell Ford GT MKII tires. They are very close. Bevital’s Brabham tires look similar but slightly thinner in the rear...currently working on the exhaust...
Thanks!
Tim
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Post by alwaysindy on Oct 26, 2019 10:24:12 GMT -5
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Post by jj66 on Oct 26, 2019 14:31:19 GMT -5
Looking good, Tim!
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Post by bevital on Oct 31, 2019 13:29:08 GMT -5
excellent job! Can't wait for the next steps!!
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Post by alwaysindy on Dec 1, 2019 13:00:06 GMT -5
Guys:
What are your experiences with old resin kits? This one is whipping my as*...in thin places it can be very brittle; in thick places it is like concrete...since this kit is mainly built with screws, it is Really hard!...I’ve stuck drill bits in my fingers and thumb about a half a dozen times...do screws holes have to be drilled the full length of the screw?...I go about 3/4 of the way, but they won’t bite into the resin(!?)...any help would be greatly appreciated!
Also, for the resin casters: have you ever seen diecast chromed? They are bendable but brittle?!?...the radius rods, roll bar, and many suspension pieces are done this way...the problem that creates is the pieces then become too thick to fit into the available holes?!? ...
So far I have completely changed the tires, exhaust, and sanded off the way too big rivets...Argahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Tim
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Post by clm1545 on Dec 1, 2019 15:06:49 GMT -5
I would drill, and tap for the screws, Tim. You can buy almost any size machine screw. For the cast metal, I would clean it up, prime with etch primer, and use the chrome paint. Just my $.02.
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Post by alwaysindy on Dec 9, 2019 16:15:11 GMT -5
Latest update...on the “Hondola”...  Still struggling, but it looks better...redoing right rear suspension...with the Ford GT tires...  The nut to hold the shock on is tiny...  Thanks for looking...comments, questions welcome... Tim |
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Post by indy on Dec 9, 2019 16:31:27 GMT -5
Great work, Tim. I know this one is fighting you but you are definitely beating it. Keep it up, I am really looking forward to every update on this one.
Jordan
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Post by alwaysindy on Dec 19, 2019 13:38:15 GMT -5
It is slowly coming together...  It has fought me HARD...  Front suspension (massive PITA)...  At least the tires look correct...the left rear is not fully on...  Comments, questions welcome...thanks for looking! Tim |
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