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Post by chromehorn08 on Oct 29, 2015 14:53:30 GMT -5
Question for you guys. A car has a semi-gloss and flat coat on it. Do the whole car semi-gloss let set then mask off and do the flat? How would y'all tackle it. Thanks for any help.
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Post by indycals on Oct 29, 2015 15:48:28 GMT -5
That's a tough one. I've thought about clear coating with semi gloss but if it's not perfect it could need polishing which would make it glossy. Likewise, paint that has been masked usually needs some TLC.
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Post by Calvin on Oct 29, 2015 18:51:29 GMT -5
I dont know if this makes sense......I would just flat clear last as flat will suck a little bit of gloss out if you spray over a flat.
I've painted a few black models with flat black and spray a glossy clear over it and it never fails the gloss comes out a little dull and I think it gets kinda sucked into the flat base.
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Post by Calvin on Oct 29, 2015 18:54:15 GMT -5
What I just said almost doesn't matter for your case....
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Post by INDY22IAM on Oct 29, 2015 21:15:38 GMT -5
What car are you trying to do and what part is suppose to be gloss and flat? It would be almost impossible to mask off the decals unless they were already coated.
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Post by SteveK51 on Oct 29, 2015 22:10:47 GMT -5
Probably to do with this car:  or this one:  |
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Post by alterrenner on Oct 30, 2015 5:02:48 GMT -5
You must also consider the tendency of decals to "silver" when applied over flat paint.
With silvering in mind, I would think the process would start with gloss first, apply decals, then use the semi-gloss clear to seal the decals, mask after a long curing period, then go with the flat clear.
My opinion.--Frank
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Post by harveythedog2 on Oct 30, 2015 7:19:30 GMT -5
This is how I would do it.
Paint, decal and then clear the whole car gloss. (A tip I learned from the guys on this board!) Once dry spray the semi gloss. Once dry de-can the flat and carefully apply lightly with a foam brush on just the flat areas. Any brush strokes from the foam brush (which are minimal) should disappear when it dries flat.
Sorry but that is the only way I can think of doing it. You won't have to mask at all and eliminate the risk of edge lines or lifting off your clear with the tape. Long process though so patients, patients, patients...
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Post by dusfincher on Oct 30, 2015 10:34:26 GMT -5
You can also add Tamiya flat base to Future and brush it on. I haven't personally tried it but I've seen the tip online. Probably want to test it out first.
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Post by harveythedog2 on Oct 30, 2015 13:29:27 GMT -5
Just talked to Ralph and he thinks my idea of brushing on the flat clear is a bad one. He believes that the de-canned flat clear may damage the semi-gloss. After more thought Ralph is probably right so both Ralph and me agree that Franks method (alterrenner) is the way to go.
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Post by chromehorn08 on Oct 30, 2015 15:23:53 GMT -5
Thanks for the tips guys! Except Calvin...just kidding lol. Stu please tell Ralph I said thanks and we miss seeing his posts on here. I will try Franks method and let y'all know how it went. Hopefully I don't screw it up. That's the last thing I need is to start over on this Honda that took so long to freakin sculpt.
Yes Steve those are the cars I'm asking about. He can never find a ride with a nice simple paint job always needs to be all fancy and complicated!
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Post by GrandPrecision on Oct 30, 2015 15:52:12 GMT -5
What about using Micro-flat or Micro-satin and brushing that on?
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Post by INDY22IAM on Oct 31, 2015 8:21:46 GMT -5
That is a tough one. I would love to see the finished product. Ask the Chinese how would they do it. Of course they usually do not clear coat a lot of times in a situation like this. You need a tampo machine. Yes his teams strive to do difficult patterns and paint schemes. I do not think they are thinking about us modelers when they design these cars. I would love to work for one of the Indy car team and be the one that apply's the vynil stickers to the cars.
Good luck on this one and keep us posted on the progress.
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