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Post by Calvin on Jul 22, 2013 14:31:54 GMT -5
Oh C'mon! This is too nice of a kit just to put back in the box and sit on the shelf for 10 years! It needs to be at least started on! Kevin K. did a fantastic job on this Eagle trans kit....very clean. This will be IMO a very fast and easy build....it looks like it could almost build its self its so accurate! I already started to clean it up with soap and water - then begun the scuffing process (all normal resin cleaning practices)  It looks like the same brand of resin Lance uses? A very smooth type of resin. The vac form windscreen looks very good as well - No dust bumps! This is the car I'm going to build this model as - Long Beach.  |
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Post by indy on Jul 22, 2013 15:55:14 GMT -5
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Post by Calvin on Jul 22, 2013 16:58:07 GMT -5
Hey, Hey! Jordan, hello Jordan! You're drooling all over my brand new thread!   |
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Post by mrpeters on Jul 22, 2013 17:25:26 GMT -5
I hope someone does the Robby Gordon Eagle! I'll pay nice change for that!
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Post by indycals on Jul 22, 2013 17:58:40 GMT -5
Kevin and I discussed it and the only way to properly do it is to have them silk screened due to the dayglo colors and that is way too cost prohibitive. Doing a set without the dayglo parts or with the dayglo areas in non-day-glo colors is not an option - I'm not going to do something half-assed. When I do something I put my whole (expletive deleted) into it  |
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Post by mrpeters on Jul 22, 2013 18:03:38 GMT -5
Bummer  What's the cost to have them silk screened? |
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Post by Calvin on Jul 22, 2013 18:32:04 GMT -5
I'm not going to do something half-assed. When I do something I put my whole (expletive deleted) into it Bahahaha! LOL Thats funny........... butt true |
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Post by racerbrown on Jul 22, 2013 18:42:51 GMT -5
hard for me to leave that line alone! :-)
duane
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Post by indycals on Jul 22, 2013 18:49:30 GMT -5
Bummer What's the cost to have them silk screened? I would have to have a finished design to get an exact quote, but I know it's at least a few hundred dollars and the minimum quantity is 250 out of which maybe 20 or 30 might ever be needed. I'm guessing it would be rather pricey due to the fact that it would be at least an 8 color job (possibly more). I put out a request for a quote guessing on the number of colors and size. |
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Post by Calvin on Jul 22, 2013 18:50:29 GMT -5
I'm doing this car as a Road Course setup.....Correct me if I'm wrong Jordan. The correct Front Road Course wings to use would be from a 1998 Reynard. I assume all 1998 Revell Reynard kits have the same RC front wings and all the 1999 do to? 1998 on the left and 1999 on the right.  So if you are getting a donor kit for this Eagle dont buy a 1999 Revell Reynard unless you are doing a Speedway car then I dont think it matters. |
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Post by Calvin on Jul 22, 2013 20:34:31 GMT -5
I just found and bought a donor kit on ebay! LOL  $6.50!!!!!!! It will be interesting to see what it looks like inside when I get it!  |
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Post by indy on Jul 22, 2013 21:42:13 GMT -5
Looking up references - will report back tomorrow. I see a show car with '99 like front wings but I don't trust show cars...
Jordan
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Post by Calvin on Jul 22, 2013 23:38:32 GMT -5
Just as Kevin said he did with his wings, I did the same. I added some extra to the flat part of the rear wing. I'm using the 1998 Front wings with 1999 end-plates but I added extra to the top since the pics I have show it doing that radius.  Since I already decided to do a road course Eagle and make the driver Alex Barron (the first of 3 drivers in that car for the year).....that leaves my only option for this car is Long Beach. I have only one picture of the Long Beach car....the one thing I noticed is the turbo inlet set up is....basically something different.....I'm looking at the 1999 Autocourse yearbook. I'll also have to switch the fuel inlet to the right side of the car. |
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Post by Calvin on Jul 23, 2013 0:39:03 GMT -5
Hopefully I'm doing the front flow defectors correct? Its hard to tell from the very few pics I have of this car....   |
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Post by indy on Jul 23, 2013 10:05:42 GMT -5
  Showcar   Looks more like the '99 Reynard front wing to me. Robby's is Vancouver (round 16 of 20) and the Eagle is Laguna (round 17 of 20) so it might have changed over the year but at first glance I have to say that references are not easy to come by. If I'd only known about this car, I could have been saving up references for 15 years LOL I do have shots of the undertray of the 987 ('98 Eagle) if you guys are interested. They aren't the best but it is interesting. Jordan |
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Post by Calvin on Jul 23, 2013 10:52:42 GMT -5
Good pics! Thanks for the input - I'm going to have to study them some more....
One thing that I'm a little hesitant on is when to mount up the front wings. I usually like to get the wings glued on good at the very beginning rather than after the paint and decals to reduce the risk of a mistake but since that nice eagle decal is on the nose I'll have to wait until I have the decal to have the dimensions to plan it out because that is a very important part of the model, being able to see the month and tong of the Eagle.
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Post by mrpeters on Jul 23, 2013 12:18:58 GMT -5
Man, i never noticed how smooth looking this car was. Shame it wasn't faster. The curves are awesome.
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Post by Calvin on Jul 23, 2013 14:19:24 GMT -5
Here is the picture of the Long Beach car that I'm going off of for my build. Take note of the front wing and the turbo inlet... (if that is one?) |
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Post by Calvin on Jul 23, 2013 19:33:34 GMT -5
The wings are done and are to my liking.  |
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Post by indy on Jul 23, 2013 23:10:01 GMT -5
You need a good pic of the turbo inlet?
Jordan
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Post by Calvin on Jul 24, 2013 0:04:19 GMT -5
You need a good pic of the turbo inlet? Jordan Yeah! It looks like its just a small square opening?  Kevin K. said that it is indeed the turbo inlet..... |
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Post by indy on Jul 24, 2013 0:34:34 GMT -5
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Post by Calvin on Jul 24, 2013 0:41:08 GMT -5
Interesting info Jordan! Thanks!
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Post by indy on Jul 24, 2013 11:11:06 GMT -5
My confusion was my thought that the Eagle was a entirely an original car but I guess not. Makes sense they'd use some Reynard parts for their car. Also, explains when the various Eagle front wings are dead ringers of components of the 1998 and 1999 Reynard wings. The 997 started the season with the adjustable part of the front wing in '98 style and went to the '99 somewhere between Long Beach (Round 3 - confirmed '98 style) and Elkhart (Round 10 - confirmed '99 style). At this point, I haven't found one clear picture of the front wings from the rounds in between to nail down when the change was done any more definitively. Gurney was quoted in 1999 as saying that he was "betting the farm" on the Eagle chassis. The chassis, in retrospect, might not have been the team's issue. For 1999, AAR was hampered by insufficient sponsorship (down to 1 car & less testing), a Toyota engine that underperformed in every catagory, and shodding their cars with the almost always slower Goodyears. Side note, in my research I found articles that Bryan Herta was signed to AAR for 2000 with the team to run a Reynard or Lola powered by Ford and of course they would have run Firestones with Goodyear pulling out after the 1999 season. That would have been interesting to see if they could help each other resurrect. However, not enough sponsorship was found in the off-season so AAR folded the ChampCar program which meant Herta entered the Y2K season without a ride so he just did spot work in 2000. Still think it was crappy of Toyota to drop Gurney for 2000 when the engine manufacturer was finally getting competitive after Gurney had suffered through four years of boat anchors from Toyota but I guess that's business....  BTW Calvin, you were talking about dreams.... I woke up this morning and realized I'd been dreaming about the 997 LOL Jordan |
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Post by Calvin on Jul 27, 2013 23:56:35 GMT -5
Currently test fitting the Revell Reynard front suspension. I also added the head support.   |
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Post by Calvin on Jul 28, 2013 15:55:52 GMT -5
Make sure you DONT screw up and mount your Revell Reynard Wheels on backwards....because its almost impossible to get off! And you might as well just leave it on because you're be short a wheel if you push the issue too much.  |
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Post by Calvin on Jul 28, 2013 18:05:16 GMT -5
The suspension is pretty much figured out! Basically its the stock Revell Reynard layout, it just needs some shorting on some of the arms but its just a matter of testing everything out before hand....it didn't take any brain power to figure it out.   |
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Post by indy on Jul 28, 2013 21:27:27 GMT -5
1st time I every put together a Revell Reynard, I did this forcing the rim on the rear axle. The mistake of inexperience. I think I found that body the other day - I need to get that box out of the truck and check. Makes a nice dummy body for sizing decals.
Funny enough it was an Gurney Eagle kit that time, too.... hmmmm
Jordan
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Post by Calvin on Jul 28, 2013 21:54:32 GMT -5
1st time I every put together a Revell Reynard, I did this forcing the rim on the rear axle. The mistake of inexperience. I think I found that body the other day - I need to get that box out of the truck and check. Makes a nice dummy body for sizing decals. Funny enough it was an Gurney Eagle kit that time, too.... hmmmm Jordan Maybe you should wright a book on Revell Reynards 101.....because there is a lot of little things to know about these kits. |
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Post by predator on Aug 5, 2013 12:06:38 GMT -5
Hope Indycals can make decals in 1/32 scale ......  Jean |
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