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Post by Patrick on Apr 8, 2012 13:15:21 GMT -5
You all know my interests in F1 run the gamut, but here's a project that I really like...very few photos exist of a promising car that failed completely...I started with AMT's Indy Lotus and used the monocoque as the body cover. I added space frame tubes... the engine is a 1/20 Cosworth cut up and reassembled into a flat-8 format...the transaxel was a GDS unit from Italy and very boxy... the Webers were a strange type that I haven't seen used on any other car... the upper body was modified by adding a Honda RA272 nose onto the Lotus upper works and the radiator aperture moulded to be similar to the prototype... test fitting looks promising... I added more chassis tubes... and began to add details to the flat-8... I like this part...never throw away parts you cut off...the engine cover came from the lower part of the engine body of the Lotus... the cam covers are going to need attention next and the little engine was 2 plugs per cylinder...2 distributors! UGH! Patrick
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Post by kurzheck on Apr 8, 2012 17:59:47 GMT -5
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Post by Patrick on Apr 8, 2012 18:42:19 GMT -5
Thanks Trevor. I have all those photos and a few more I ferreted out of photo collections! This interesting car had a bolted on rear tube frame that would allow the mechanics pull the engine out horizontally! Because of the flat engine with the strengthening tubes were welded on the top of the engine bay. Different to say the least! I wish it wasn't an embarrassment of a car. I DO love the "Bussi" (Roberto Bussinello, driver) written on the rear wheel! Patrick
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Post by mjjracer on Apr 10, 2012 13:39:22 GMT -5
Patrick, your brain and creative center works differently from those of us "normal" people. Brilliant work and fascinating subject.
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Post by illeagle10 on Apr 10, 2012 19:53:02 GMT -5
Looks like another gem in the making!
Jim
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Post by Patrick on Apr 14, 2012 12:35:21 GMT -5
The car goes to the painter today (it stopped raining!). Interesting note about the "Bussi"...he didn't drive the car in a practice or race. He only drove their Formula Junior car. Hm-m-m-m. Front suspension set up to assemble...rear? I'm still fiddling with it.
Patrick
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2012 10:38:43 GMT -5
Yet another inspiring build Patrick. I bow in reverence! Ian
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Post by Patrick on May 22, 2012 0:07:13 GMT -5
We inch forward... one spaghetti strand at a time... Front suspension is done! I need 4 narrow slotted NASCAR wheel$! Any one have 4 to $ell (oh, 1/25-4 scale). Plea$e let me pay. Patrick
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Post by eagle36 on May 22, 2012 5:34:12 GMT -5
We inch forward... one spaghetti strand at a time... Front suspension is done! I need 4 narrow slotted NASCAR wheel$! Any one have 4 to $ell (oh, 1/25-4 scale). Plea$e let me pay. Patrick I'll check my stash tonight.
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Post by kurzheck on May 22, 2012 7:04:38 GMT -5
I will also...
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Post by eagle36 on May 22, 2012 22:13:33 GMT -5
We inch forward... one spaghetti strand at a time... Front suspension is done! I need 4 narrow slotted NASCAR wheel$! Any one have 4 to $ell (oh, 1/25-4 scale). Plea$e let me pay. Patrick I have several sets of the MPC "Southern Stocker" variety. Let me know
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Post by Patrick on May 22, 2012 23:13:52 GMT -5
These are the wheels that I need and will settle for something similar. Will the Southern stocker wheels "look" similar? Thanks for your help. Patrick
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Post by Chris on May 23, 2012 14:25:34 GMT -5
Got a De Tomaso Pantera around? look real similar!!! Chris
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Post by Patrick on May 23, 2012 23:48:17 GMT -5
Goodness...I never thought of that. Brilliant my friend!! and uh...no I don't. Lots of folks are helping me on this.
Patrick
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Post by Chris on May 24, 2012 13:30:04 GMT -5
Not a Pantera but still a 1966 DeTomaso.....Look familiar? Chris ;D
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Post by Patrick on May 24, 2012 20:25:44 GMT -5
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Post by Patrick on Nov 22, 2013 23:36:08 GMT -5
Perhaps it seemed like this was a "lost project", but it is not so! I opened the box and a new vision of how to deal with the problems that stopped this could be overcome. SO... Here's the engine cover that I vac-formed (while I was vac-forming the 637 Indy) with the velocity stacks cut out... and here it is fitted on the chassis... with that done I can now finish the rear suspension and rear chassis! Patrick
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Post by 2lapsdown on Nov 23, 2013 22:41:51 GMT -5
Patrick, I'm so glad you've chosen to use your powers for good and not evil! Your mind is so full of fun ideas, watching you work is a blast
John
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Post by Patrick on Nov 24, 2013 0:00:10 GMT -5
Thanks John, nice of you to say so.
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Post by indy on Nov 24, 2013 0:52:40 GMT -5
Beautiful work!
Jordan
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2013 8:41:41 GMT -5
Wow amazing built. You sure know your F1. Great stuff!!!
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Post by Patrick on Nov 26, 2013 11:59:01 GMT -5
Thanks guys for the kind words.
Patrick
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 14:51:24 GMT -5
Patrick- I always liked this era of F1. There were so many teams and builders who were all thinking out of the box. They were not afraid to try something different. Each team ran a car was really different in major ways from what the other teams were using. definitely not cookie cutter cars!
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Post by Patrick on Jan 12, 2014 16:59:10 GMT -5
Too true!
Patrick
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2015 10:18:21 GMT -5
Patrick, as you asked to me, I looked at this very interesting thread.... me too, I love unusual and rare race cars... Well, regarding to the back part of the frame, I have no great ideas... maybe you could bend a plastic rod with the help of an hairdryer, give the correct shape and glue the ends, then make the "bridges" between the two rings, and finally glue the ensemble at the back of the frame... I don't know if it could work, never tried something like this, according to me all depends upon the rod's shaping... In any case, it would be a sin to let such a project suspended....
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Post by alterrenner on Jan 2, 2015 6:19:42 GMT -5
The De Tomaso F1 car fell into my "brain cells that I destroyed" category of memory. Glad you brought it back. Very interesting. Keep plugging away...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 6:53:00 GMT -5
"This" De Tomaso F1 is quite unknown... the most famous F1 car from the italian-argentinian factory is this one, that raced in 1970 with Ford Cosworth engine... with this car the talented Piers Courage lost his life in Zandvoort (Netherlands)....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 6:54:18 GMT -5
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Post by Patrick on Jan 2, 2015 21:46:06 GMT -5
I agree!! Temptation!! Patrick
Beppe-Thanks for the suggestion...I was thinking of that also and was considering solder, too. Not much weight to support and it could work. too. Problem with the solder would be I'd have to use epoxy as the glue. I knew your heart was with the unusual cars, too! Here's an idea...the 3D printing might work, but I don't know enough about what would be expected of me as the designer.
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Post by Patrick on Aug 10, 2017 15:24:36 GMT -5
Trying to finish this project up... Still working on the rear frame... Patrick
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