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Post by Calvin on Oct 26, 2022 12:46:18 GMT -5
Is it simply because of the Netflix show, Drive to Survive?
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Post by alwaysindy on Oct 26, 2022 13:47:50 GMT -5
Calvin:
I’ve been to the F 1 race at COTA before…the prices were insane 5 years ago! A Hamilton Mercedes hat was like $75! A lot of folks from Mexico, Brazil, and other parts of South America. There is also great dining, hotels and the Capital, with mostly mid 60’s and clear weather…Austin is a fast growing, modern city with plenty of history…
As to DTS, I am convinced that Indycar needs personality badly! An occasional flare up between rivals, a larger social media presence, and a reality show would all be good for the sport.
Every interesting driver has a “story.” Senna: the privileged kid who had to change his name to hide it from his parents. Intense to the point of spiritual…Fangio the “old man” from Argentina (of all places!) shows he’s still got it in his 40’s…Mario: the Italian who becomes an American and succeeds in Indy, F1, NASCAR…AJ: the country boy from Texas who ALWAYS speaks his mind.,.where are the current guys’ stories?
Dixon: grows up in New Zealand, married to an Olympic champ, more wins than anybody not named A J…
Newgarden from Tennessee (of all places!)…what did his parents do to jump start his career? Brand new baby? Major dental work: why? How did it help your neck?
Ferucci: what happened in Europe? Your side of the story. Why are you so fast at Indy? Overcoming bad publicity…how to do it?
I think that “maybe” the younger demographics would then be more interested…as Craig would say: My $.02…
Tim
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Post by Calvin on Oct 26, 2022 14:01:35 GMT -5
I totally agree with you, Tim.
I was amazed to hear the Austin was the largest F1 attendance of the year with 400k for the weekend.
I've also noticed the TV ratings are WAY higher than pervious years.
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Post by MicroMachine on Oct 26, 2022 18:10:58 GMT -5
Today's Indycar drivers are too clean and very much maintaining a good image for sponsors.
We need more rivals. I grew up in the 50's and 60's. Remember the tension between A.J. and Mario. Also Parnelli and Hurtibise. It would help if we didn't have the same chassis and only 2 engine manufacturers. The racing is good and they need to show that. Also better prerace publicity. And bring back more ovals.
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Post by quattro on Oct 26, 2022 18:57:26 GMT -5
I cast my mind back to the Las Vegas parking Lot GP in the early 80s.
Did CART not run the same weekend one time?
I know Can Am did.
Is there an issue that stops Indycars running as a support race to F1? An FIA thing perhaps?
If you are not running the usual F2/F3 supports with their one make car/engine combos then why not?
I can see a few of you thinking this is an out of order idea.
And to me in certain ways Indycar is a superior kinda racing to F1.
But the way I see it, if Indycar can get that kind of exposure,
and it runs races all over North America all year round,
it may give the new race fans a fix they can only otherwise get by breaking the bank
and going to one of three over subscribed F1 events.
I have many young folk at work and kids of friends asking me about F1
over here that only just got into the sport last year.
They cannot afford a trip to an F1 race in Europe,
but as an alternative I suggested going to a few other national level races.
They are considering it. Pity F2 doesn't run separate to the F1 package like it used to.
Or even the Renault 3.5 series type event which was a good weekend to attend.
I have mentioned Logan Sargeant in past threads on here.
He has a crack at an F1 seat. He will be on everyone's lips over there next year if he lands it.
Where does that leave Herta and Newgarden and those other proven competitors
who can handlle powerful single seaters at speeds the F1 guys will probably stains their undies at?
Fine. Indycar is not F1 and is not meant to be, but deserves every chance to tap into some 'overspill' from F1.
Can't get on a support slot?
Fine. Get an F1 team or two to send over a few year old cars and get them to do demo runs
with the odd F1 regular or past master running them at an Indycar event. And publicise it right.
Or better still, an Indycar regular doing the demo.
A 'Honda' F1 car is an obvious link to me.
Give those who now like their F1 a chance to see that and then appreciate and enjoy a good Indyacr thrash.
They will likely go back. Especially if they discover home grown talent from their own back yards.
Never happen but I would love F1 to go back to Indianapolis as a support to Indycars on the 'GP' weekend
prior to the Indy 500.....
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Post by racingforever on Oct 26, 2022 22:27:17 GMT -5
I just wish Ferrari wasn't such a chicken to opt out of Indycar. They are being foolish to not expand into Indycar. Same with Aston Martin, Jaguar, Buick, BMW, & Volvo. If they all would just do so, I'm pretty sure that would help Indycar in many different ways. Not only that, but there's NO budget caps in Indycar and it's only a fraction of the F1 costs to race in the Indianapolis 500 to say the least. Money aside, I don't see what's wrong with them doing so. It's too bad we have a better chance of seeing Al Pacino going ice skating with Jason Alexander than any of said manufacturers going to Indycar.
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Post by schix5150 on Oct 27, 2022 0:58:54 GMT -5
Forget those manufactures. What about Ford? They have blatantly said they will never get involved in Indycar. What a perfect series to market their “eco boost” platform. Obviously it would not be the same engine but it’s all about marketing to get peoples attention. I will never buy a Ford for this sole reason. While there may not be much innovation in racing these days (aside from Formula E), every manufacturer that produces a turbo charged V6 could have utilized Indycar to market their brand. Oh well, what do I know. I try to support the companies involved in Indycar as best I can.
Mike
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Post by raceparke on Oct 27, 2022 6:56:52 GMT -5
In ‘74 at Watkins there were American teams from Penske, Parnelli and Shadow. Now an American team is not allowed even though they would pay a huge entry fee. Euro based superlicense requirements. Inconsistent interpretation of arcane and overly prescriptive regulations. Post race adjustments of outcomes.
I don’t care about F1 anymore but will watch IMSA or INDYCAR any time it’s on.
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Post by arcticwolf on Oct 27, 2022 13:21:13 GMT -5
I guess I'm the opposite of you guys. I wouldn't give 2 cents for today's Indycar racing. It's become just a regional spec series, and some of the drivers seem to think that a stock car mentality is perfectly acceptable. It's a shame because in it's glory days of USAC and then CART it was quite something. No question F1 has it's problems, but today it's by far the pinnacle of motorsports. It's become so popular because it's a superior product.
Oh, and the last time I checked, Haas was an American team.
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Post by racingforever on Oct 28, 2022 19:04:44 GMT -5
And yet, I feel like the Indy 500 should be the pinnacle of car racing over F1. Especially since it's been around a lot longer than Formula 1 was a whisper on Mother Earth. It's too bad not many F1 fans, drivers and constructors would agree with me and many other Indycar fans. Their loss if you ask me.
Nonetheless, here's my video opinion on F1's latest race on American soil
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Post by indycals on Oct 29, 2022 21:22:19 GMT -5
I don't get it. F1 racing has pretty much been (expletive deleted) since 2008 and up until this year the recent cars were the most hideous things to ever take to a race track. And this year when the racing has finally been more competitive, it was a runaway championship for Max - at least last year's (expletive deleted) season came down to the final laps, even if the end result was a joke. How F1 kept any credibility is again, beyond me. The cost of attending F1 is beyond insane and they sell out... something isn't adding up.
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Post by Calvin on Oct 30, 2022 0:43:56 GMT -5
Formula 1 (liberty Media) is actually traded on the Nasdaq stock exchange with a current market cap of $13.5 Billion and its been VERY consistently bullish since the covid crash. With trading volume going up this year. On the day chart, it held above the 200day moving average for the longest time, hit resistance at $71.17 per share, pulled back, found support, bounced back and failed to make a higher-high and its currently at previous support with earnings on Nov 4th. There's currently a good risk-to-reward ratio if anyone is interested in trading it. risk 5% to potentially make 20% if it returns to previous highs  |
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Post by racingforever on Oct 30, 2022 10:13:43 GMT -5
Too bad Red Bull is not publicly traded on the stock market
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Post by raceparke on Oct 30, 2022 12:13:11 GMT -5
In addition to many other talents, Calvin can add “stock analyst” to his curriculum vitae. 🤔
Man, $13,500,000,000. And that’s before receiving the Red Bull fine payment!🤣🤣
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Post by Calvin on Oct 30, 2022 12:45:37 GMT -5
Too bad Red Bull is not publicly traded on the stock market Ferrari is publicly traded under the ticker RACE on the day chart Pretty bullish the last few years keeping above the 200-day moving average. But fell below the moving average and started making lower-highs and lower-lows. It just recently made a higher-low and looking to push through the moving average. It has a good risk-to-reward ratio. Risk 10% for a possible reward of 40% if it returns to all-time highs, but it needs to show confirmation of an uptrend, first. I wouldn't touch this stock until it shows more confirmation of an uptrend, maybe take a small position size and scale into the position.  |
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Post by Calvin on Oct 30, 2022 12:54:04 GMT -5
In addition to many other talents, Calvin can add “stock analyst” to his curriculum vitae. 🤔 It's actually my main "profession" NOT the model business. LOL I've been learning to trade for the last 5 years, It's been the most challenging skill I've ever learned, as I was not gifted in this stuff like being an artist, I've had a lot of ups and I've had a lot of downs. But WAY more consistent nowadays. It's unbelievably lucrative if you know a good strategy and are unbelievably disciplined and NOT greedy!!!!! Being greedy kills judgment while trading and will absolutely kill any consistent success. When I trade I do NOT look at how much I up or down as its completely irrelevant to the market. I just try to be disciplined and follow my thesis. |
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Post by raceparke on Oct 30, 2022 16:50:00 GMT -5
Calvin,
I am impressed. I’ve never studied stocks or the market. It seems Greek to me, like creating files to 3D print a part.
All the best in your trading.
Dan
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Post by Calvin on Oct 30, 2022 17:57:08 GMT -5
Calvin, I am impressed. I’ve never studied stocks or the market. It seems Greek to me, like creating files to 3D print a part. All the best in your trading. Dan Yep, it use to not make any sense when I first started. Lol I'm a technical trader, I don't watch the news as its nothing but BS! (They work for the institutions), I dont read company financial statements. I just trade what the chart is telling me. I can trade both directions, I can make money by shorting the market when it's selling off and I can long the market when it's going up. |
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Post by racingforever on Nov 10, 2022 13:49:27 GMT -5
Too bad Red Bull is not publicly traded on the stock market Ferrari is publicly traded under the ticker RACE on the day chart Pretty bullish the last few years keeping above the 200-day moving average. But fell below the moving average and started making lower-highs and lower-lows. It just recently made a higher-low and looking to push through the moving average. It has a good risk-to-reward ratio. Risk 10% for a possible reward of 40% if it returns to all-time highs, but it needs to show confirmation of an uptrend, first. I wouldn't touch this stock until it shows more confirmation of an uptrend, maybe take a small position size and scale into the position. That much I did know. In fact I bought 5 shares of Ferrari stock the very day it went public. |
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Post by Calvin on Nov 10, 2022 21:16:31 GMT -5
That much I did know. In fact I bought 5 shares of Ferrari stock the very day it went public. If you're still holding them, you're up 330%. |
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Post by racingforever on Nov 14, 2022 2:02:37 GMT -5
That much I did know. In fact I bought 5 shares of Ferrari stock the very day it went public. If you're still holding them, you're up 330%. I certainly am |
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Post by Calvin on Jan 31, 2023 16:19:55 GMT -5
Formula 1 (liberty Media) is actually traded on the Nasdaq stock exchange with a current market cap of $13.5 Billion and its been VERY consistently bullish since the covid crash. With trading volume going up this year. On the day chart, it held above the 200day moving average for the longest time, hit resistance at $71.17 per share, pulled back, found support, bounced back and failed to make a higher-high and its currently at previous support with earnings on Nov 4th. There's currently a good risk-to-reward ratio if anyone is interested in trading it. risk 5% to potentially make 20% if it returns to previous highs I just wanted to follow up with "Formula 1 stock" that I was talking about a few months ago when I suggested it was a great buy. It's currently testing all-time, highs, again! Market cap for F1 (liberty media) is now $16.55 billion! If someone would've dollar cost averaged into the dip, they currently have an approximant 20% gain on their position. I would NOT buy at these over-bought levels, I would suggest taking profits for sure....not financial advise.  |
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Post by Calvin on Jan 31, 2023 16:26:08 GMT -5
Too bad Red Bull is not publicly traded on the stock market Ferrari is publicly traded under the ticker RACE on the day chart Pretty bullish the last few years keeping above the 200-day moving average. But fell below the moving average and started making lower-highs and lower-lows. It just recently made a higher-low and looking to push through the moving average. It has a good risk-to-reward ratio. Risk 10% for a possible reward of 40% if it returns to all-time highs, but it needs to show confirmation of an uptrend, first. I wouldn't touch this stock until it shows more confirmation of an uptrend, maybe take a small position size and scale into the position. Then Ferrari stock has had a very consistent uptrend since we last talked about this one. From the lows from when we talked about it to the current price was an approximant 27% gain. The price is getting close to resistance and Id suggests thinking about taking profits..... Not financial advice   |
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