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Post by mrpeters on Oct 13, 2014 11:00:32 GMT -5
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Post by SteveK51 on Oct 13, 2014 12:44:42 GMT -5
It's almost certainly that the mirror stalks are too thin for their liking, right?
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Post by indy on Oct 13, 2014 13:02:34 GMT -5
Email sent
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Post by mrpeters on Oct 13, 2014 14:14:12 GMT -5
It's almost certainly that the mirror stalks are too thin for their liking, right? those, and strangely part of the mirror bodies, which was curious for me. Maybe it's because its essentially "hollow" since I only model the outside shape. The stalks I can widen no problem. They may need to be widened anyways.  Ralph took some measurements of his nicely done mirrors for me, and I scaled to that. |
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Post by indycals on Oct 13, 2014 14:21:52 GMT -5
Did you click "Fix Thin Walls"?
This is one of the tricky things about 3d printing. Drawing for illustration and drawing for output is two different things.
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Post by mrpeters on Oct 13, 2014 14:54:49 GMT -5
I did, Michael. It made lots of weird bubbles instead of just thickening things. Jordan is going to take a look at them.
Again, I claim to be no expert at 3D printing, but I am happy to make available any parts that I can to all of you guys.
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Post by mrpeters on Oct 20, 2014 13:11:58 GMT -5
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Post by indy on Oct 20, 2014 13:33:41 GMT -5
If anyone wants a custom mix of parts, unless Michael objects, I would be able to upload a custom arrangement. Looks like Frosted Ultra Detail is the optimal due to the thin parts. Also the leading edge of the mirrors seems to have a bit of distortion on the Shapeways preview, it is not in the original part (I just verified) so I am not sure how it will print.
Jordan
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Post by chromehorn08 on Oct 20, 2014 14:42:57 GMT -5
Cool! Thanks for making these! Gotta love 3D printing and how its helping all of us! .....Now if we could just get some Lola front and rear RC wings.
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Post by IndyCarModels on Oct 20, 2014 14:56:30 GMT -5
Any possibility that these can be made in 1:64 scale?
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Post by indy on Oct 20, 2014 15:33:33 GMT -5
Any possibility that these can be made in 1:64 scale? Working on it. Jordan |
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Post by IndyCarModels on Oct 20, 2014 16:44:33 GMT -5
great
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Post by mrpeters on Oct 20, 2014 18:22:01 GMT -5
You have my permission to make any modifications, deviations, etc.
Consider this licensed Creative Commons.
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Post by INDY22IAM on Oct 20, 2014 19:48:35 GMT -5
This is so awesome. I hated doing these things. I loved the challenge but I am a perfectionist, like most of us probably are. I always had a hard time getting two mirrors exactly alike. Now we just need to get the 06 Penske mirrors and the 09 Penske mirrors. Than everything will be as right as rain. Thanks so much for your time and efforts and sharing with the rest of us.
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Post by mrpeters on Oct 21, 2014 4:34:54 GMT -5
I sent indy the mirrors from the 2008 Dragon racing car, laser scanned off the real deal, pretty darn close to what Penske ran. I think he is still working on making them "ready" for Shapeways and those can be released as well. I'll post them for sale when ready, and indy is welcome to make 1:64, 1:25, etc. variants as needed. These mirrors were from Aerodine Composites however. Not sure if Penske made them in house or not, but they are very similar. For the 06, you could cut the extra holes from the Aerodine part. For the 2008, just fill in the hole and trim back the mirror stem.  |
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Post by INDY22IAM on Oct 21, 2014 11:13:13 GMT -5
Great news may bee I can finish my other two Indy winners. Thanks
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Post by indy on Oct 21, 2014 16:06:08 GMT -5
The issue with the Dragon mirrors is the long taper at the back of the mirror post. It narrows gradually so the last 2.5+mm are too narrow for Shapeway's minimums wall width. Either I have to broaden it to where it prints with no taper or you have to accept that the back edge of the mirror support might not print right so it might need to be fixed/repaired upon arrival. That is for 1/18 so for smaller scales like 1/25 & 1/64 the portion of the mirror support that is too narrow would be greater as you go down in size.
Also, if you want something besides a flat and flush mirror face then I need some hi-rez close up pics!!
Jordan
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Post by mrpeters on Oct 21, 2014 23:38:02 GMT -5
you know I have all of the pictures you could ever need. just let me know and I'll get you high resolution shots.
Have hundreds of the dragon cars.
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Post by senn65 on Oct 22, 2014 8:44:37 GMT -5
The issue with the Dragon mirrors is the long taper at the back of the mirror post. It narrows gradually so the last 2.5+mm are too narrow for Shapeway's minimums wall width. Either I have to broaden it to where it prints with no taper or you have to accept that the back edge of the mirror support might not print right so it might need to be fixed/repaired upon arrival. That is for 1/18 so for smaller scales like 1/25 & 1/64 the portion of the mirror support that is too narrow would be greater as you go down in size. Also, if you want something besides a flat and flush mirror face then I need some hi-rez close up pics!! Jordan Just sand the taper like I do with styrene. |
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Post by mrpeters on Oct 25, 2014 20:53:23 GMT -5
Well boys, they came out GREAT! Camera needs to shrink about 15% otherwise everything is PERFECT These printed fantastic, nice and sturdy too! You can tell they didn't just print a "shell" around the camera. It's full. Not hollow. Same for the mirrors.  |
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Post by indy on Oct 27, 2014 8:24:09 GMT -5
LMK what you think the final dimensions should be and I can make some adjustments. Glad they turned out well in the end, was quite an interesting learning experience.
Jordan
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Post by mrpeters on Oct 27, 2014 16:48:02 GMT -5
LMK what you think the final dimensions should be and I can make some adjustments. Glad they turned out well in the end, was quite an interesting learning experience. Jordan Can you shrink by percent in your software? 90% of the original will be perfect. |
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Post by racingforever on Nov 19, 2014 13:13:00 GMT -5
Cool! Thanks for making these! Gotta love 3D printing and how its helping all of us! .....Now if we could just get some Lola front and rear RC wings. My thoughts exactly. Particularly in 1/18 |
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Post by indy on Nov 19, 2014 14:49:35 GMT -5
Cool! Thanks for making these! Gotta love 3D printing and how its helping all of us! .....Now if we could just get some Lola front and rear RC wings. My thoughts exactly. Particularly in 1/18 It is on the radar for 2015. Going to look at a 1:1 first. Jordan |
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Post by racingforever on Nov 19, 2014 16:31:53 GMT -5
My thoughts exactly. Particularly in 1/18 It is on the radar for 2015. Going to look at a 1:1 first. Jordan Sweet! Especially if one wants to custom order Oriol Servia's maiden victory car at Montreal in 2005. That's me. |
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Post by racingforever on Nov 23, 2014 14:34:33 GMT -5
BTW, how exactly do you plan to get a 1:1 scale view of a Lola?
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Post by racingforever on Jan 13, 2015 1:05:59 GMT -5
I don't know if this is the place for suggestions for this 3D printing diecast customizing business, but if it is, I have another one offhand: The aerodynamics used for the 2008 Sauber BMW F1.08 used in the Canadian Grand Prix. What separates it from the regular Minichamps version is that it doesn't have those obnoxious winglets on the nose. This car, for those who don't know, gave Robert Kubica his one and only F1 victory and Sauber's first F1 win as well.
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Post by mrpeters on Jan 13, 2015 12:16:15 GMT -5
sorry man, not something I'd be interested in.
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Post by racingforever on Jun 27, 2017 20:30:54 GMT -5
sorry man, not something I'd be interested in. Still interested in doing 1/18 2005 Lolas at least? |
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Post by indy on Jun 28, 2017 12:58:03 GMT -5
Was working a few months ago trying to get a 1/18 R/C front wing from a member here to try to draw for 3D printing. Need to get back on track with that.
Jordan
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