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Post by GrandPrecision on Jul 7, 2014 14:09:41 GMT -5
Just curious if there's enough interest to publically post some of my current 3d offerings on Shapeways. Unfortunately, their pricing model doesn't help on smaller items unless bundled together, so I'd be inclined to bundle them together.
Here's the items that I've currently modeled and would offer, and are curious if any other items would be of interest:
1) Front Wheel Nuts- these replace the current GL threaded rod/plastic cover, allowing one to simply glue this realistic nut into the opening to hold the wheels in place.
2) Corrected mirror bodies- The GL ones are rather inaccurate, and these would add a bit of accuracy. However, would need to be glued onto the original mirror arm, so would be rather fragile. (Possibly will redesign the mirrror arm as well down the road)
3) Steering Wheel- Currently have both the "Generic" and "Penske" wheels modeled. The generic one is used by Andretti and a number of other teams.
4) Speedway Bumper- Still in trial/error mode of sizing, but looks to be pretty set. Only caveat is that the bumpers would be ~$30 each.
I'm open to other suggestions for items, one possibility would be the dashboard, as the GL one is rather inaccurate. Other possibilites may be a redesigned brake disc/caliper, but not sure how noticeable this would be for the cost.
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Post by harveythedog2 on Jul 7, 2014 14:51:23 GMT -5
Chris - Can you post photos? I think anything that makes my conversions more accurate is a good thing.
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Post by chromehorn08 on Jul 7, 2014 15:39:38 GMT -5
Chris - Can you post photos? I think anything that makes my conversions more accurate is a good thing. Agreed anything to make these as accurate as possible helps! Thanks in advance for all the time and work put into these parts! |
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Post by INDY22IAM on Jul 7, 2014 20:18:37 GMT -5
I would for sure be interested in the rear speed way bumpers. I think these would be your biggest seller. The steering wheels would be probably second. Depending on the wheel nut price that would be a possibility seller. I also would love to see some of the old chassis mirrors from like Sam Hornish 2006 winner, Andretti mirrors and 2009 Penske mirrors and Ganassi mirrors. I also think road course wings might bring a good support but could be pricey both DW12 and the older chassis.
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Post by SteveK51 on Jul 7, 2014 21:35:20 GMT -5
I'd be loading up on some of those goodies!
For IR03 ideas, another would be pre-positioned front wings using the GL mounting connection, so the old ones could just be cut off.
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Post by GrandPrecision on Jul 8, 2014 6:54:14 GMT -5
Here's some pics of what's been done: Wheel Nut:  Mirrors:   The bumpers are in the final stage of prototyping, as the width of the cross bar was wrong, but the alignment to the attenuator is good. I have no plans to offer anything for the old Dallara as these items are being printed for my own use, and I do not see me making any IR03 1/18s in the near future. I have considered the RC front wing, however, the difficulty is aligning the front wing correctly as it is not perfectly horizontal. |
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Post by AJ on Jul 8, 2014 11:19:19 GMT -5
i would be down for a c note or two
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Post by indy on Jul 8, 2014 11:36:15 GMT -5
Could the steering wheel(s) be resized to 1/25 and still be acceptable for printing?
Jordan
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Post by harveythedog2 on Jul 8, 2014 11:44:55 GMT -5
I like the idea of 1 piece instead of two but the original rivet being metal adds strength. Just curious how strong the printed wheel nut stems are?
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Post by GrandPrecision on Jul 8, 2014 13:31:15 GMT -5
Could the steering wheel(s) be resized to 1/25 and still be acceptable for printing? Jordan Jordan, I would believe it would be possible. You can see in the link below (big pic warning), that there should be enough thickness that going down in scale would not be a problem. My only concern would be whether the paddle shifters would be too thin, and would probably eliminate them from the design in 1/25th. chrisjerina.smugmug.com/Racing-Hockey-Memorabilia/Diecast-Conversions/2012-98-Alex-Tagliani-DW12/i-VjX262X/0/2X/tag_07-X2.jpgThe Penske wheel I am trying something different, to allow easier painting of the buttons and paddle shifters. The thicknesses are close to the minimum allowed (due to splitting the thickness of the wheel in half, essentially). If printed in 1/25, obviously this feature would be eliminated.  I like the idea of 1 piece instead of two but the original rivet being metal adds strength. Just curious how strong the printed wheel nut stems are? I'm sure its weaker than the original metal rivet, but I could not comment whether the weakness would be too much that it could break off easily. The biggest difficulty with Shapeways, and I believe Michael has run into this too, is that "Frosted Detail Plastic" materials are priced per cm with a fixed initial cost of $5. This means that even if the item is designed to use very little print material, its already going to cost $5 for that model. If each item were listed invididually, you would have to pay $5 for each model before even printing, where-as grouping the items together into 1 model would reduce this cost to only $5 per set (aka $5 instead of $5 times X). |
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Post by harveythedog2 on Jul 9, 2014 5:52:52 GMT -5
The steering wheel looks great Chris. Both the drawing and the link to your replica. I would be all over those.
Stu
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Post by mjjracer on Jul 10, 2014 14:38:30 GMT -5
I would be up for at least the steering wheel. I'm starting my first conversion in years and that wheel is beautiful. I love how you made it so the buttons can be cleanly painted. Perhaps if a number of us are interested we could buy several from Shapeways and save on the costs.
MJ
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Post by pje on Jul 23, 2014 0:25:40 GMT -5
Chris, any updates on the steering wheels? I would be interested in one each in 1/25th scale to add to Calvin's upcoming rerelease.
Paul Erlendson
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Post by Calvin on Jul 23, 2014 0:36:37 GMT -5
Chris, any updates on the steering wheels? I would be interested in one each in 1/25th scale to add to Calvin's upcoming rerelease. Paul Erlendson FYI I'm including a Revell 2010 Ferrari steering wheel in the kit. (Its the closest one I have for the DW12) Its looks pretty good but yeah its not 100% correct. |
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Post by GrandPrecision on Jul 23, 2014 7:36:53 GMT -5
Paul, Im out of town at the moment. The one thing that will have to be removed or grossly oversized are the paddle shifters. When I get back on Monday, I'll upload it. Meanwhile, this arrived back from Shapeways:    It is available here: www.shapeways.com/model/2136157/1-18-sw-bumpers.html?modelId=2136157&materialId=60Unfortunately, there is no movement in the pricing. I have no markup on the prices that you see listed, so the only way to reduce the price is to put multiple copies in the same "item" so that if you order multiple, you at least save $5 per bumper. |
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Post by indy on Jul 23, 2014 7:41:53 GMT -5
Was thinking that his steering wheel might be a good addition for the DW12 kit, too. Anyone know what TK's wheel looked like last year? TK's the only 500 winner in the DW12 era that didn't carry an on-board camera.
In Calvin's defense, I noticed on my 1998 Dallara kit that the white metal steering wheel had injector pin marks on the back. Thinking the highly regarded Chris Etzel did the same thing and found a steering wheel from a 1/24 F1 car as a good enough substitute.
Jordan
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Post by INDY22IAM on Jul 23, 2014 8:25:39 GMT -5
Bought three of the bumpers just now. They look great and about at $25.00 each. With roughly $3.00 shipping. It would be nice if the steering wheels were separate from the mirrors but not that big of a deal. The bumpers look really good. Thanks for doing the work on this.
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Post by SteveK51 on Jul 23, 2014 9:59:43 GMT -5
Looks Awesome! I'm looking it over very close and it is spot-on!
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Post by mrpeters on Jul 23, 2014 10:13:41 GMT -5
Great job, and a very fair price!
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Post by GrandPrecision on Jul 23, 2014 17:36:25 GMT -5
... It would be nice if the steering wheels were separate from the mirrors but not that big of a deal. The bumpers look really good. Thanks for doing the work on this. When I get back, I can upload the steering wheel individually. I had a request from someone for those specific parts. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 21:30:13 GMT -5
I'm looking at purchasing some speedway bumpers in hopes of making Aleshin's 500 car. But I was curious about the difference between the ultra & ultra-fine detail. Is there much difference? And the rustolum primer works with them right?
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Post by indycals on Oct 12, 2014 22:36:58 GMT -5
Whichever one you get you will need to sand it like crazy... and prime it and sand it again, and probably repeat a few times. Frosted Ultra Detail is necessary when you have ultra fine detail that needs to be resolved by the printer. For something like the bumpers which really don't have any tiny detail, I would just go with the Frosted Detail plastic.
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Post by indycals on Oct 12, 2014 22:37:24 GMT -5
And FYI, Aleshin is on my to-do list.
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Post by mrpeters on Oct 13, 2014 8:38:33 GMT -5
Whichever one you get you will need to sand it like crazy... and prime it and sand it again, and probably repeat a few times. Frosted Ultra Detail is necessary when you have ultra fine detail that needs to be resolved by the printer. For something like the bumpers which really don't have any tiny detail, I would just go with the Frosted Detail plastic. Tamyia white or grey primer. Hobby Lobby has it. Don't use rustoleum self etching though lol! |
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Post by mrpeters on Oct 13, 2014 15:20:50 GMT -5
The bumpers rock, by the way, just be VERY careful. Any drop will break them like an egg shell.
Wonder if they would hold up to make a resin mold? I'm not so sure they would since I managed to break 2 out of my 3.
They glue back together with superglue quite nicely and sand down just like they were.
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Post by mrpeters on Oct 13, 2014 15:48:26 GMT -5
I should print this in the steel option and see what I get hahaah shpws.me/wlod |
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Post by racingforever on Oct 13, 2014 22:59:28 GMT -5
Whatever happens next year, here's hoping Greenlight properly retools the cars for next season so we won't have to put up with the aggravations of inaccurate aerodynamics
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Post by senn65 on Oct 14, 2014 9:27:04 GMT -5
The steering wheel looks great Chris. Both the drawing and the link to your replica. I would be all over those. Stu Stu the hub goes inside the wheel hole, that is what holds all the stress on the wheel. The nut stem is just for lateral movement. I guess if you let a kid play with the car he could probably do some damage other than the wheels. |
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