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Post by indycals on Sept 16, 2012 14:22:19 GMT -5
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Post by 2whl on Sept 16, 2012 15:32:56 GMT -5
I like it a lot Michael !!
What color did you use for the body?
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Post by indycals on Sept 16, 2012 15:37:33 GMT -5
TS55 dark blue, overcoated with TS72clear blue.
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Post by harveythedog2 on Sept 16, 2012 17:35:06 GMT -5
Where is the model??? All I see is the real car! Super work Michael! Stu
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Post by rickh on Sept 16, 2012 21:02:59 GMT -5
That is a beauty, Michael. Now I have to ask, what is the rear track problem, or am I going to need to build one to find out what it looks like uncorrected?
Beautiful, indeed. Rick
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Post by indycals on Sept 16, 2012 21:36:01 GMT -5
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Post by indy on Sept 16, 2012 21:48:52 GMT -5
Wow! Super impressive! I love the fix and the paint is glass smooth - just a great looking build and great looking photography to capture it.
Jordan
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Post by sandysixtysfan on Sept 17, 2012 6:58:35 GMT -5
Just off the chart awesome!
Sandy
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Post by racerbrown on Sept 17, 2012 7:01:17 GMT -5
hit the switch and see if it will fire up! thanks for sharing. duane
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Post by shunter on Sept 18, 2012 5:24:59 GMT -5
Gorgeous work Michael...
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Post by racerbrown on Sept 18, 2012 6:35:15 GMT -5
why would they have metal on top of one exhaust but not the other? duane
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Post by SWT500 on Sept 18, 2012 7:21:24 GMT -5
It's an aero thing, a crude wing of sorts. Michael, you are peerless when it comes to building and photographing them!!
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Post by 2lapsdown on Sept 18, 2012 8:12:43 GMT -5
Duane, I'm guessing the crude spoiler on the left side was an attempt to keep the left tire firmly planted to offset the tendency of the car to lean to the right in the corners. Anyone care to wade in on this?
John
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Post by raceparke on Sept 18, 2012 9:16:56 GMT -5
IIRC wings, as such, were not to be used at that time. Gurney called it an "exhaust brace". I had not seen the center flap in references. Very nice work on the Iggle, Michael.
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Post by smbrm on Sept 18, 2012 9:49:50 GMT -5
Duane, I'm guessing the crude spoiler on the left side was an attempt to keep the left tire firmly planted to offset the tendency of the car to lean to the right in the corners. Anyone care to wade in on this? John Agreed, vestigal crude early spoilers. Wings were not allowed, but exhaust pipe braces were! There was also much evolution during the season in terms of layout of braces and angle of the exhausts for long & short ovals as well as road courses. This appears to be a setup for possibly a shorter oval. Rear rim/tire widths also widened during the season as well. I believe the rear tires in the kit are probably too wide for Indy but better reflect later races. Awesome build and photo record by Michael
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Post by indycals on Sept 18, 2012 11:42:27 GMT -5
IIRC wings, as such, were not to be used at that time. Gurney called it an "exhaust brace". I had not seen the center flap in references. Very nice work on the Iggle, Michael. The center flap is visible (barely) in the qualifying photo. I looked at the photo MANY times before I noticed it. It kind of blends into the pit road. If you look closely at the horizontal brace coming out of the leftward pipe, you'll notice that it just 'disappears' look closer and you'll see the metal flashing that is covering it up. Also slightly visible in this pic - the crewman has his hands on it
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Post by raceparke on Sept 18, 2012 14:58:46 GMT -5
What an eye! Now I see it! Now to add it to my build. And redo the rear track. Will the details never end? (probably not. . . ) Thanks
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Post by mjjracer on Sept 18, 2012 18:05:54 GMT -5
Spectacular, Michael! I am inspired, and quite a bit cowed by the quality of your work. I have been looking at pics of this car for years and never before saw the middle spoiler. ("Why to they call it a spoiler? It spoils the looks of the car!") I assume they are RMM tires, as they appear to be round. Did you vacuum form the windscreen? (any extras left over? ;D) And, finally, for the tint on the windscreen, was that Tamiya blue clear or your patented dip-it-in-Futura-and-food-coloring technique? Truly spectacular. Thanks for sharing. MJ
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Post by indycals on Sept 18, 2012 21:00:57 GMT -5
Everything is out of the box except the decals and exhaust mods. My kit tires were pretty good. There were only very minor areas of warpage on one side of the tire. The windscreen used FFCT™ - Future Food Coloring Technique
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Post by smbrm on Sept 19, 2012 2:17:42 GMT -5
Agreed good eye!
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Post by Chris on Sept 19, 2012 19:43:42 GMT -5
One of the Best replicas of the 68 Eagle I have seen.. you did miss the scoop on the left side right behind Dan below the RAC sticker but the great work on the spoilers and framework for them makes up for it.. LoL!! Man I wish my older sister would clean out her garage and come up with the nose off this car that Dan gave to my Dad and he gave to her... She says she is gonna look for it but...... we all know how that goes.. Beautiful Work Michael. Chris
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Post by pje on Sept 19, 2012 23:02:59 GMT -5
Beautiful job Michael!
Was your choice of blue an artistic one because of scale? Should the color not be a metallic?
Are the stripes your decals or did you paint them? The reason I ask is because of the nose. If you used your stripe decals, how did you paint the car white and then mask the nose so it would flair into your decal stripe you would have added after you sprayed on the blue? Hope my question makes sense.
Paul Erlendson
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Post by indycals on Sept 19, 2012 23:35:18 GMT -5
I honestly don't know what color the car was, but there does tend to be a serious problem of scale with metallic paints. The pics I've seen of the Eagles seem to indicate that if they were metallic, it was very fine to begin with, such that it would not be perceivable at small scale. Another great example of that was Simon Pagenaud's car at Indy this year - his car was metallic blue! But you had to be about 6" away to see the metallic flake! I would not use metallic paint to replicate it.
I painted the inside of the nose, the stripes are decal and I did add a flair to the front of the nose decal that is now incorporated into the sheet.
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Post by SWT500 on Sept 20, 2012 7:17:43 GMT -5
The same was true with Alesi's car at Indy. It was metallic but just looked black.
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Post by jamesharvey on Sept 20, 2012 11:43:44 GMT -5
My recollection of the '68 Gurney car was that they were really deep blue almost black but not metallic. Memory fades over time as do colors.
Jim
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2012 9:05:24 GMT -5
Dumb question-what is the Future Food Color process? I gather you're using Future and food coloring?
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Post by Calvin on Oct 3, 2012 9:57:05 GMT -5
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Post by Chris on Oct 3, 2012 12:10:20 GMT -5
My recollection of the '68 Gurney car was that they were really deep blue almost black but not metallic. Memory fades over time as do colors. Jim The actual color was a dark metallic blue, at least the nose off this car sitting in my sisters house is!! I was told Cadillac Firemist Blue by a AAR member.. This question comes up about every 6 months but having been in the car and having the nose off it.... Chris
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Post by pje on Oct 3, 2012 12:49:15 GMT -5
My recollection of the '68 Gurney car was that they were really deep blue almost black but not metallic. Memory fades over time as do colors. Jim The actual color was a dark metallic blue, at least the nose off this car sitting in my sisters house is!! I was told Cadillac Firemist Blue by a AAR member.. This question comes up about every 6 months but having been in the car and having the nose off it.... Chris I asked the question directly to AAR a few years ago. This is what they used for a restoration of chassis 104. Glasurit Brand Paints - Metallic dark blue base # 5 4 - 6 M - 5 0 3 5 and Clear Coat 9 2 3 - 5 5 White (Roundels) 5 4 - M 2 5 White Pearl (body) 6 9 - M - 0 1 0 with the same clear coat 9 2 3 - 5 5 From my “Scale Models” article from years ago on mixing racing colors (with Tamiya paint), they suggest for A.A.R. Blue as: 4 parts aluminum + 3 parts royal blue, and then clear coat. So Chris, my question to you is about the white stripe on your nose. Is it white pearl or just white? Paul Erlendson
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2012 2:56:29 GMT -5
Thanks for the link Calvin.
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